# BIG REDS wanna be Nick Cage Build thread.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [February 6, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178 "2010-02-06T19:21:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1761 "2011-01-18T10:19:15Z")

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> [@fs: 94 del sol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-94-del-sol/38763/6):
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> and the one that I made for my car.It still has to be cut for the grille opening and polished/painted.

Ahhhheeemmmmmmm? WE made the grill. :rofl

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1762 "2011-01-18T10:47:34Z")

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> [@Jumped head first into the deep end at the JDM kiddie pool.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jumped-head-first-into-the-deep-end-at-the-jdm-kiddie-pool/38822/4):
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> Last Thursday I pulled out the center section out of the rear end to replace my ring and pinon. the car has 3.00:1 gears which were waaaaaay too long or doing anything but 85 on the highway. The car had no low end at all, so I ordered a set of 3:70s to replace them. that should be a good all around gear. So I spent the last 2 days with the help of my buddy jim swapping them. It was my first time doing gears but for the most part just very time consuming pressing on all of the bearings without a press. Then it turned out the tip of the pinon was a hair too big to fit inside the new or the old pinon case bearing so that required us to turn the tip of it down until it slid into the bearing properly. Once that was done it came time to shim everything so that the gears meshed properly and the backlash was in spec. It was all trial and error using the right size pinon shim to get the contact patch right and also trial and error setting the differential side to side just right in order to set the depth of the teeth.each time required us to paint the gears to see where the gears meshed, based on where the paint rubbed off told us what way to shim the pinon or move the diff to the left or the right to get the contact area correct. the contact area to get it just right It took about 5 hours and about 50 attempts but finally we got it perfect. Its not rocket science but definitely a very time consuming and tedious job. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics
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> the start
> 
> all dissembled
> 
> new pinon and ring gear assembled
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> pinon tip polished
> 
> all assembled note the painted part of the ring gear showing the contact patch.

I hate doing gears. Unless you do them all the time they are far to time consuming. Glad to see you got it done yourself though, only way to go!

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1763 "2011-01-18T11:32:12Z")

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> [@Top 10 resale brands](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-10-resale-brands/38808/17):
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> I hate doing gears. Unless you do them all the time they are far to time consuming. Glad to see you got it done yourself though, only way to go!

deff time consuming. took me a total of 10 hours or so start to finish.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1764 "2011-01-19T10:32:59Z")

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didn’t really feel like changing and crawling on the cold garage floor today so I did a couple little odds and ends inside the car.

installed the new speedo cable, put the cluster back in and installed the tach. I still have to wire it though.  
 ![http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7820/img3304r.jpg](http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7820/img3304r.jpg)

rebuilt and installed the heater control/slider assmb., I have to clean up the knobs still so ill install them another day.

![http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2470/img3305q.jpg](http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2470/img3305q.jpg)

random one with the car covered in dust and in a million pieces  
 ![http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6933/img3303pt.jpg](http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6933/img3303pt.jpg)

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**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1765 "2011-01-19T14:06:39Z")

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what brake package is that on the front. I must have missed it earlier in the thread, but those look like 4 piston calipers.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1766 "2011-01-19T19:55:39Z")

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they are ssbc 4 piston calipers. pretty much the best you can buy with out going with the big dollar set ups like bear and wilwood

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1767 "2011-01-19T20:01:37Z")

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dave when are you going to address the inner fender area and rid it of that hideous red, or is that staying for some reason?

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**Author:** ![keifer75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@keifer75](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/keifer75)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1768 "2011-01-19T20:10:13Z")

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^  
Quote:  
Originally Posted by **PJB** [![http://shift518.com/images/styles/silverblue/buttons/viewpost.gif](http://shift518.com/images/styles/silverblue/buttons/viewpost.gif)](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?p=554331#post554331)  
_I wonder why he primed the underbody but didnt paint it before putting it back together._

Its red oxide primer, thats exactly what the cars looked like when they were new.

a fully “concourse” restored 67 shelby

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1769 "2011-01-19T20:12:30Z")

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> [@Got my exhaust on](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-my-exhaust-on/38870/4):
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> ^  
> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by **PJB**  
> _I wonder why he primed the underbody but didnt paint it before putting it back together._
> 
> Its red oxide primer, thats exactly what the cars looked like when they were new.
> 
> a fully “concourse” restored 67 shelby

its not a concourse car though. its just unsightly. if it were a factory spec resto i could see that. but its a theme car.

what did the movie car have dave??

its all about what the movie car had, and i have no idea.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1770 "2011-01-19T20:35:41Z")

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> [@Another goodie for the stang....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-goodie-for-the-stang/38585/27):
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> its not a concourse car though. its just unsightly. if it were a factory spec resto i could see that. but its a theme car.
> 
> what did the movie car have dave??
> 
> its all about what the movie car had, and i have no idea.

it was never shown, but based on what i’ve read about the movie cars they prob had holes, most of them were rats nests just made to do a certain job and look good on screen. When I install the front coilovers I’m going to do the fenderwells in truck bed liner just like I did on the underside of the fender because they can be seen,and to give them some sort of chip guard. however the floor/underside of the car will stay the oxide primer.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1771 "2011-01-19T20:38:34Z")

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> [@CD player(s) aren't working, electrical problem?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cd-player-s-arent-working-electrical-problem/38835/6):
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> Ahhhheeemmmmmmm? WE made the grill. :rofl

more like I set it up and you did the work:thumbup

too bad we have to make another one.

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1772 "2011-01-19T20:55:27Z")

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FWIW, isn’t one of the actual movie cars here in NY inside some barn’like museum on display? Could just go take a peek at it :ponder

The bed liner idea is solid though, just have the wheel wells shot in gravitex or similar. Stuff is easy to apply.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1773 "2011-01-20T03:55:40Z")

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> [@sold](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold/35251/33):
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> more like I set it up and you did the work:thumbup
> 
> too bad we have to make another one.

werd… if someone knew how to read a tape measure we wouldnt have that problem. lol

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1774 "2011-01-20T06:12:27Z")

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> [@red srt 4](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-srt-4/38874/6):
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> FWIW, isn’t one of the actual movie cars here in NY inside some barn’like museum on display? Could just go take a peek at it :ponder
> 
> The bed liner idea is solid though, just have the wheel wells shot in gravitex or similar. Stuff is easy to apply.

dont think there is any of them in the tri state area…

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1775 "2011-01-20T12:03:15Z")

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got the rear end back together  
 ![http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7744/img3307ih.jpg](http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7744/img3307ih.jpg)

the driveshaft was a crappy white color so I cleaned it up and painted it.  
 ![http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7471/img3306wv.jpg](http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7471/img3306wv.jpg)

I put the driveshaft back in and re assembled the parking brake.  
 ![http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3466/img3309f.jpg](http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3466/img3309f.jpg)

![http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8140/img3308r.jpg](http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8140/img3308r.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1776 "2011-01-20T14:17:02Z")

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> [@Got my exhaust on](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-my-exhaust-on/38870/9):
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> it was never shown, but based on what i’ve read about the movie cars they prob had holes, most of them were rats nests just made to do a certain job and look good on screen. When I install the front coilovers I’m going to do the fenderwells in truck bed liner just like I did on the underside of the fender because they can be seen,and to give them some sort of chip guard. however the floor/underside of the car will stay the oxide primer.

yeah i like the underside how its done. but like you said about chips and all that, this car should be driven, might as well optimize it for that

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1777 "2011-01-20T14:29:49Z")

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> [@WORLDS FASTEST BMW E36 Street car!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/worlds-fastest-bmw-e36-street-car/38667/5):
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> yeah i like the underside how its done. but like you said about chips and all that, this car should be driven, might as well optimize it for that

its a lot of work to do the red oxide primer/overspray. The PO did a good job and did it when the car was a bare shell on a rotisserie so i’m going to leave it. The fenderwells will look better in truck bed liner and they will be durable. I already put about 2500-3000 miles on the car in the couple months I had it on the road, its tough to say exactly how much because the speedo cable broke on day 1.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1778 "2011-01-20T14:36:15Z")

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> [@Which day for roller hockey?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/which-day-for-roller-hockey/38889/5):
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> its a lot of work to do the red oxide primer/overspray. The PO did a good job and did it when the car was a bare shell on a rotisserie so i’m going to leave it. The fenderwells will look better in truck bed liner and they will be durable. I already put about 2500-3000 miles on the car in the couple months I had it on the road, its tough to say exactly how much because the speedo cable broke on day 1.

i was agreeing with the wheel wells being done and leaving the under carriage alone :thumbup

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1779 "2011-01-20T15:00:03Z")

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:lmao

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-reds-wanna-be-nick-cage-build-thread/250178/1780 "2011-01-29T20:52:31Z")

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myself and krazy kid got the upper and lower grille all welded up last night  
I made some cardboard templates so I could trim them to fit the openings

![http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5420/img3310i.jpg](http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5420/img3310i.jpg)

upper test fitted

![http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/612/img3312d.jpg](http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/612/img3312d.jpg)

upper and lower

(hood is not closed on this one)  
 ![http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/852/img3314tb.jpg](http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/852/img3314tb.jpg)

![http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8802/img3313gi.jpg](http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8802/img3313gi.jpg)

once they were fit it was time to polish the face.  
120 compound  
 ![http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4874/img3315t.jpg](http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4874/img3315t.jpg)  
400 compound  
 ![http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2020/img3316sp.jpg](http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2020/img3316sp.jpg)  
rough cut rouge  
 ![http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6594/img3317y.jpg](http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6594/img3317y.jpg)  
final cut(its a bit greasy/dirty so the picture makes it look dull)  
 ![http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1917/img3318x.jpg](http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1917/img3318x.jpg)

tomorrow after work ill mask off the face and paint the rest of the grille black, remove the tape and clear the whole thing.

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