# Bikes **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 6, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bikes/202113 "2009-03-06T04:19:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 75
**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bikes/202113/75 "2009-03-23T13:10:32Z")
> [@Donald Trump a cheapskate?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/donald-trump-a-cheapskate/39871/15): > > How do I convince my wife to let me get a bike? I have been telling her for the longest time that I would love to get one, but she is worried I’ll kill myself on it. I have been wanting to get a 3rd car to mess around with and I told her that I would get the bike instead of the car, but she still doesn’t want me to get one. Do any of your wives/gf’s dislike the fact that you have a bike? > > Edit: oh and the last thing I would do is just buy one anyways because then my life would just be a living hell. You really need to talk to Neonracer01, he was in the same boat as you a few years back. He got his wife talked into it. They had even lost a good friend on a bike. I would also go take the safety course. You will get your licsenes, and you will have some SAFE stuff to work on your wife with. To be honest, I dont think bikes are any less save than a car. I was looking at the number of fatal crashes of bike vs. cars a few weeks back, the numbers I came up with for cars for 2004 was 69.33 people out of 100,000 cars, average, died. For bikes it was 57.01 persons died out of 100,000 bikes. Now I know there are way more cars than bikes, but the average is the average. It just like you hear, from the people that want helment laws, that since PA did away with the helment law, there has been X number more of fatal crashes. They never mention that the number of bikes is also WAY up. and that the average is just about the same. Last time I researched it it was something like .4% less fatal crashes after no helment law. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bikes/202113)._