# Bill O'Reilly actually made sense today... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 31, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704 "2005-08-31T18:35:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/61 "2005-09-01T11:56:39Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > haha… what about the trucks to take them away? the fuel for cremation furnaces? the petrolium used to line the caskets with plastic? you’re really grasping at straws. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/62 "2005-09-01T11:58:14Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > the lines at the gas station do NOT show an increase in demand. They show a bunch of people trying to hurry up and get a tank of gas in before a big ass rate hike. If they arent consuming more, then they arent demanding more. People dont buy the stuff and keep it sitting around in barrels. consumption is equally proportional to demand. and if you really think that the people driving away from the storm and the rescue helicopters are really influencing national gas prices, you are retarded. how in the fuck can you consume more withouth demanding more?/ you have to buy it to burn it… so all these people buying gas earlier aren’t really buying it? i’ve already explained petroleum usage with other types of products not directly related to transportation… please educate yourself. gas isn’t just something cars use. and you’re fucking right… caravaning 40,000 people from NO to dry land does use fuel. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/63 "2005-09-01T11:58:45Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > you’re really grasping at straws. tell me how in the fuck you’re going to remove dead bodies, burn them or bury them without using fuel. ---
**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/64 "2005-09-01T12:03:07Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > suck my cock… he’s your president too Sandra Froman is my president :reloading ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/65 "2005-09-01T12:04:28Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > tell me how in the fuck you’re going to remove dead bodies, burn them or bury them without using fuel. honestly dude, they tow out bodies on big ass trucks, big ass trucks never sit still on a work day so they were gonna be used regardless… if they weren’t hauling dead hoodlems they’d be hauling food, TVs, cars, etc… i bet more fuel is consumed in rush hour than in a day of body removal. 🍺 why you so fired up today… you’ve got like pewter posting stats going on ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/66 "2005-09-01T12:04:31Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > how in the fuck can you consume more withouth demanding more?/ you have to buy it to burn it… so all these people buying gas earlier aren’t really buying it? > > i’ve already explained petroleum usage with other types of products not directly related to transportation… please educate yourself. > > gas isn’t just something cars use. > > and you’re fucking right… caravaning 40,000 people from NO to dry land does use fuel. people ARENT consuming any more! thats the whole thing. :slap: ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/67 "2005-09-01T12:05:30Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > tell me how in the fuck you’re going to remove dead bodies, burn them or bury them without using fuel. you will use fuel, but not at a rate thats gonna drive prices up. thats a drop in the fucking bucket. 21 million barrels per day. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/68 "2005-09-01T12:05:41Z")
well that was a little far fetched, but it was in responce to the ‘well the dead bodies won’t drive’ comment… which in itself wasn’t really a valid argument. i’m fired up because i like to argue. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/69 "2005-09-01T12:07:03Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > people ARENT consuming any more! thats the whole thing. :slap: but the fucking production is limited… so 21million barrels to 25 made per day… then 21million barrels to 15 made a day IS A FUCKING INCREASE in demand or a decrease in production… both equate to raising prices. :eek4: ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/70 "2005-09-01T12:08:04Z")
with fuel prices being astronomically high, people will be doing everything they can to REDUCE their demand. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/71 "2005-09-01T12:09:02Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > but the fucking production is limited… so 21million barrels to 25 made per day… then 21million barrels to 15 made a day IS A FUCKING INCREASE in demand or a decrease in production… both equate to raising prices. > > :eek4: i have no idea what you just said… but i have to go to work, so have fun with this thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/72 "2005-09-01T12:11:45Z")
here it is in easy terms mike. if you’re basing american’s fuel consumption on the production of 25 million barrels a day… and then you base it on 15 million barrels, there is going to be an increase in price, due to less production of fuel. it’s that simple pepople going out to buy as much gas as cheap as they can is only ADDING to the demand of fuel and RAISING the price. simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/73 "2005-09-01T12:13:44Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > here it is in easy terms mike. > > if you’re basing american’s fuel consumption on the production of 25 million barrels a day… and then you base it on 15 million barrels, there is going to be an increase in price, due to less production of fuel. > > it’s that simple > > pepople going out to buy as much gas as cheap as they can is only ADDING to the demand of fuel and RAISING the price. > > simple as that. but over the next 3 days demand is extremely low because everyone has their gas, so it all evens out. there should be no price change for people buying gas on a certain day. ---
**Author:** ![Bravada\_442](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bravada_442/32/5982_2.png) [@Bravada\_442](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bravada_442)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/74 "2005-09-01T12:14:09Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > here it is in easy terms mike. > > if you’re basing american’s fuel consumption on the production of 25 million barrels a day… and then you base it on 15 million barrels, there is going to be an increase in price, due to less production of fuel. > > it’s that simple > > pepople going out to buy as much gas as cheap as they can is only ADDING to the demand of fuel and RAISING the price. > > simple as that. True. Higher demand pushes prices higher. Buying gas now because its “cheap” only causes the price to increase exponentially. If we started producing only 15 million barrel of fuel, we’d be like that one scene from the movie Miracle, sitting in long ass lines waiting for fuel talking about stupid shit. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/75 "2005-09-01T12:14:56Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > but over the next 3 days demand is extremely low because everyone has their gas, so it all evens out. there should be no price change for people buying gas on a certain day. you’re 100% right… gas prices have not increased lately. also, the american economic system runs opens and closes every 3 days, so what happens 1 day doesn’t effect anything :ugh: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/76 "2005-09-01T12:15:48Z")
> [@Bravada 442](#): > > True. Higher demand pushes prices higher. Buying gas now because its “cheap” only causes the price to increase exponentially. If we started producing only 15 million barrel of fuel, we’d be like that one scene from the movie Miracle, sitting in long ass lines waiting for fuel talking about stupid shit. impossible… common sense and an educated post in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/77 "2005-09-01T12:42:42Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > impossible… common sense and an educated post in this thread. thats why i dont ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/78 "2005-09-01T21:25:48Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > you’re 100% right… gas prices have not increased lately. > > also, the american economic system runs opens and closes every 3 days, so what happens 1 day doesn’t effect anything > > :ugh: gas prices have gone up because of a massive reduction in supply. It doesnt have a fucking thing to do with demand. Demand = consumption. If theres not any more consumption, then theres not any more demand. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/79 "2005-09-01T21:27:20Z")
> [@Bravada 442](#): > > True. Higher demand pushes prices higher. Buying gas now because its “cheap” only causes the price to increase exponentially. If we started producing only 15 million barrel of fuel, we’d be like that one scene from the movie Miracle, sitting in long ass lines waiting for fuel talking about stupid shit. you’re fucking retarded. One day of people rushing to fill up isnt gonna make gas go up 70 cents in two days. according to your hypothesis, now that gas is high and people arent rushing to get it, then the prices will go right back to normal in the next few days. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704/80 "2005-09-01T21:53:59Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > you’re fucking retarded. One day of people rushing to fill up isnt gonna make gas go up 70 cents in two days. according to your hypothesis, now that gas is high and people arent rushing to get it, then the prices will go right back to normal in the next few days. mike you are very left wing in your views but I see your point a lot but come on man you are reaching. here we go: you go buy gas Monday night before the price goes up from the production drop as does everyone else(demand has to do with a given time not overall consumption). tuesday the gas prices go up for 2 reasons. 1. the tanks at stations are empty and they have to buy more gas which has risen in price from their wholesaler and 2. the increase is predicted to keep rising so some stations price gouge to make more off the first batch they got with the smallest increase. granted the fact people all ran to the pumps in one day didn’t increase the cost of fuel almost a full dollar in 3 days but it sure didn’t help. if people would have just gotten gas when they needed it the lower prices would have stayed until the next shippment was bought by the station owners at the new cost. Demand is simple economics Mike. if you are a station owner you try to lock in the lowest price you can, but when every station is ordering at the same time the price jumps because the demand of the refinerys has risen with the gas bought by people because station owners have to refill their ground tanks at the same time. It really isn’t a hard concept. The president has little to do with all this infact his hands are tied until the consumer stops driving or the refineries start up again. he uncapped a million barrels today from the reserve but how long will that last? 2 days or less with the holiday weekend. I saw a study today if we uncapped all the reserves in the country the government would have zero petrolium in under 3 weeks with driving patterns the staying the same and the price would drop maybe 20 cents tops if not less. I do agree mike that President Bush should cap the prices but at this point they need to save human lives and restore order in the NO so give it a week or 2 so the city can be secured then talk about gas prices all in all when the refineries start again we can look to see gas going back down but we are just goin to have to deal with it until then. there is very little ANYONE can do at this point unless the saudis get real friendly and lower prices. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bill-oreilly-actually-made-sense-today/176704.md?page=5)