# Binghamton Shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 3, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588 "2009-04-03T09:31:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/41 "2009-04-03T14:22:25Z")
> [@evolve](#): > > You continue to amaze me. SRSLY ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/42 "2009-04-03T17:07:24Z")
like, is there any reason to keep someone like that around here? ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/43 "2009-04-03T17:29:17Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > They shouldn’t arrest or deport this guy. They should send him to Iraq since apparently he can shoot if he wants to stay a citizen. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/44 "2009-04-03T18:05:26Z")
> [@Juicey J](#): > > There are some messed up people in this world. It would make sense if it was a white racist person who hated immigrants, and did this…but an asain? i dont get it. What’s to get about someone that caps 13 heads then themself? psyyyyyyyyychoooooo ---
**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/45 "2009-04-03T18:30:17Z")
Here’s this: > [@CNN](#): > > A senior law enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation identified the suspect as Jiverly Wong, who is believed to be in his early 40s. … > > … Christine Guy said she worked with Wong at Endicott Interconnect Technologies, a high-tech electronics company in Endicott, New York, where he was an engineer. > > He went by the name “Vaughn,” which is what co-workers called him, she said. And it’s weird sitting next to the SUNY Binghamton campus right now - a siren went by and it was a little ennerving. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/46 "2009-04-03T19:39:42Z")
> [@Moruitelda](#): > > We don’t need to turn this into a gun control debate. > A gunman barricaded the back door of a Binghamton, New York, immigration services center with a car and burst through the front door on a shooting rampage This is exactly why we should have more strict rules for issuing drivers licenses in this country. Possibly, ban automobiles altogether in light of amount of destruction one individual can cause with a well placed car. ---
**Author:** ![Vrooom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vrooom/32/7198_2.png) [@Vrooom](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vrooom)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/47 "2009-04-04T09:05:24Z")
Yikes. Guy here in Pittsburgh was just apprehended after a 5 hour stand off. He was shooting at officers with an AK47 from his living room window since 7 this morning, 3 officers killed. Crazy listening to all the gunfire live on the news. Sounded like a war zone. ---
**Author:** ![Juicey\_J](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicey_j/32/5238_2.png) [@Juicey\_J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juicey_J)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/48 "2009-04-05T22:10:30Z")
> [@Moruitelda](#): > > I think he was commenting on the fact that it was an Immigration Assistance Center. That’s the first thing that jumped to mind for me. > > That said, it’s still technically possible. White people aren’t the only people who don’t like new immigrants, and not all Asian-Americans are 1st or 2nd Generation immigrants. Thats what i meant. And yeah your right. in the end the guy is a psycho. ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/49 "2009-04-05T22:23:11Z")
I’ve been to Binghamton… I’m not surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/50 "2009-04-06T00:23:07Z")
I guess the psycho’s show themselves during times of mass layoffs huh. Pretty sick, but I guess things could be worse. ---
**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/51 "2009-04-06T05:22:41Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > This is exactly why we should have more strict rules for issuing drivers licenses in this country. Possibly, ban automobiles altogether in light of amount of destruction one individual can cause with a well placed car. Yeah, both sides of the gun control debate (without either side being irrational) look at situations like this, and draw conclusions from it based upon their own pre-existing opinion. “We should ban guns so he couldn’t get them. If you do that, and he has the guns, you can lock him up for having them, rather than having to wait for him to kill someone.” “Banning guns won’t keep them out of the hands of anyone but criminals. So when the criminal busts in, nobody can protect themselves, and more people have to die.” Both sides are reasonable, and the argument never goes anywhere. It happens very regularly on the SA forums, so it’s almost second nature to just tell the first person to say “Ban guns”/“Guns for everyone” to shut up. Tends to keep the thread on track. ---
**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/52 "2009-04-06T08:06:15Z")
Gun control laws are not applicable here - apparently, his guns were legal. And in any case, his targets were mostly immigrants (not sure how many were actually citizens), therefore they were not eligible for permits anyway… that is, unless we want armed aliens in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/53 "2009-04-06T08:08:46Z")
> [@traumadog](#): > > Gun control laws are not applicable here - apparently, his guns were legal. > > And in any case, his targets were mostly immigrants (not sure how many were actually citizens), therefore they were not eligible for permits anyway… that is, unless we want armed aliens in the US. Which further reinforces my point. Speaking of the killer, the NYPost had a rather interesting write-up that I found linked from Drudge: [http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052009/news/nationalnews/failed\_life\_for\_killer\_coward\_162952.htm](http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052009/news/nationalnews/failed_life_for_killer_coward_162952.htm) Now, you don’t expect a discussion of a mass murderer to be complimentary, but I was struck by how far out of their way this author went to demean the killer. (I’m not arguing that it’s uncalled for, or white-knighting this scumbag, just making note that it’s rather unusual.) > The lunatic behind the Binghamton massacre was a pathetic, gun-loving coward who got divorced, lost his job and was driven to depression because he could barely speak English after many years in the United States… ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/54 "2009-04-06T08:12:00Z")
I just don’t see why we live in a society now where people who hate their life can’t just hang themselves in their basements anymore. At what point did grabbing a gun and unloading on innocent people prove your “point”? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/55 "2009-04-06T08:18:02Z")
What ever happened to the good old days when people just jumped out of windows when they were down on their luck during a depression? ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/56 "2009-04-06T08:22:37Z")
They have realized that they are not at fault silly. ---
**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/57 "2009-04-06T08:23:18Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > I just don’t see why we live in a society now where people who hate their life can’t just hang themselves in their basements anymore. At what point did grabbing a gun and unloading on innocent people prove your “point”? > [@Fry](#): > > What ever happened to the good old days when people just jumped out of windows when they were down on their luck during a depression? If I were really depressed, I’d probably just overdose on pills. ---
**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/58 "2009-04-06T08:23:35Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:56,topic:65588"”] They have realized that they are not at fault silly. [/quote] :roflpicard: ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/59 "2009-04-06T08:30:36Z")
> [@Moruitelda](#): > > Which further reinforces my point. > > Speaking of the killer, the NYPost had a rather interesting write-up that I found linked from Drudge: > > [http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052009/news/nationalnews/failed\_life\_for\_killer\_coward\_162952.htm](http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052009/news/nationalnews/failed_life_for_killer_coward_162952.htm) > > Now, you don’t expect a discussion of a mass murderer to be complimentary, but I was struck by how far out of their way this author went to demean the killer. (I’m not arguing that it’s uncalled for, or white-knighting this scumbag, just making note that it’s rather unusual.) It’s the New York Post, 'nuff said… It’s a shame people still read that blather. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588/60 "2009-04-06T08:32:54Z")
If anyone of you are so depressed you’re thinking about this… please… remember that right now the entire state government is in Albany talking about this budget. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/binghamton-shooting/65588.md?page=4)