# Black Boxes in cars.....mandatory?? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 22, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421 "2006-08-22T05:32:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cheeks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cheeks/32/5930_2.png) [@Cheeks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cheeks)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/1 "2006-08-22T05:32:05Z")
> **[Autoblog: New Cars, Used Cars for Sale, Car Reviews and News](https://www.autoblog.com/)** > > Autoblog brings you automotive news; expert reviews of cars, trucks, crossovers and SUVs; and pictures and video. Research and compare vehicles, find local dealers, calculate loan payments, find your car's book value and get a service estimate at... Bunch of bullshit to me ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/2 "2006-08-22T05:52:58Z")
snap… that sucks… well looks like i will stick to fords made before 2008. Wonder if you can remove the EDR’s? Pewter should know they are in plenty of camaros and ta’s ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/3 "2006-08-22T06:13:55Z")
I like it. I will know how fast my kids are driving. :ugh2: That like Microsoft coming out with their new super duper uncrackable software that can’t be pirated, and then 3 days later 300 million copies are on the internet for everyone to download. With everything computerized, it’s only a matter of time before the hackers get in and start messing with the black box. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/4 "2006-08-22T06:23:42Z")
free country my ass ---
**Author:** ![S10Blazed\_Si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s10blazed_si/32/5983_2.png) [@S10Blazed\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S10Blazed_Si)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/5 "2006-08-22T06:35:33Z")
> [@FS: Front Mount Intercooler \*\*sold\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-front-mount-intercooler-sold/23843/6): > > free country my ass You’re free to not buy one. But it’s definitely something I do not want in any of my vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/6 "2006-08-22T06:46:41Z")
> [@S10Blazed Si"](#): > > You’re free to not buy one. > > But it’s definitely something I do not want in any of my vehicles. why they are saying its going to be mandatory by 2008… thats not to free in my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![SP71Supra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sp71supra/32/5955_2.png) [@SP71Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SP71Supra)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/7 "2006-08-22T06:48:36Z")
Its not a law yet… its proposed, I doubt this will make it to law, not in 08 at least, just my opnion. Thats just a better reason to buy a AEM EMS or a Motec… look on the bright side 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![S10Blazed\_Si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s10blazed_si/32/5983_2.png) [@S10Blazed\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S10Blazed_Si)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/8 "2006-08-22T06:51:23Z")
> [@I have mice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-mice/23830/39): > > why they are saying its going to be mandatory by 2008… thats not to free in my eyes. By ‘one’ I meant a car. If you don’t like it, don’t buy the car. But it was more of a half attempt at a joke. I think it’s ridiculous to put these things in every car. I’d feel like a prisoner with an ankle bracelet. ---
**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/9 "2006-08-22T08:15:00Z")
Did anyone notice the poll results on that page were 91% “against” and 9% “for” with over 31000 people voting? Next they’ll want to add the immoblizer for alcohol content too. Hey, just take a blood sample and get the amphetamine and barbituate level while you’re at it? Why not put a pregnancy tester on there and follicle stimulation hormone presence so you know when to use the backseat for humping? :finger2: It’s un-American… ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/10 "2006-08-22T09:22:23Z")
I can’t stand this sort of BS. I also think the public outcry against it will have little effect. Look at the stadiums in Pittsburgh…they were clearly voted down, but guess what, they’re built, and our crooked city government used plenty of tax dollars to do it. I am thinking they might make it mandatory in cars, then make it part of inspection, so we can’t just remove them. I do have one idea though…if I’m in a wreck, I’m taking that SOB with me before I leave the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/11 "2006-08-22T12:00:39Z")
Maybe the ACLU will get involved and do something worthwhile for once. ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/12 "2006-08-22T13:15:22Z")
> Probably they’ll just erect an electronic debiting system of some sort that ties directly into your checking account – since the paperwork could not keep up with the massive uptick in fines that would be generated. now that is mother fucking bullshit guess taking your car to the track is out of the question all for our own good my ass, natural selection…survival of the fittest, those who are asshole drivers will still die, you can be killed and kill going the speed limit you know. ---
**Author:** ![munster\_ek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/munster_ek/32/5977_2.png) [@munster\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/munster_ek)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/13 "2006-08-22T17:56:24Z")
Looks like I’ll forever own a pre 2008 car. Download a virus to it. Let them scan it during inspection, and upload it to the state. ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/14 "2006-08-22T18:46:02Z")
doesnt the body control module or BCM do the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/15 "2006-08-22T19:34:09Z")
Haha, I like that. ---
**Author:** ![grnteg98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@grnteg98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grnteg98)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/16 "2006-08-22T19:49:04Z")
fuck the government ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/17 "2006-08-22T20:27:18Z")
wow. Crazy how you all get so mad when your OWN civil liberties are encroached upon. ---
**Author:** ![Tony8470](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tony8470](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tony8470)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/18 "2006-08-22T20:34:27Z")
Are you saying that you like this idea? Theres no way it will pass, into law. You think those guys in congress want a black box in thier cars? ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/19 "2006-08-22T20:36:34Z")
> [@1/28/07 Meet....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-28-07-meet/23726/38): > > Are you saying that you like this idea? > > Theres no way it will pass, into law. You think those guys in congress want a black box in thier cars? no. I’m saying that everyone barks are me for being paranoid/anti-government/anti-bush, because I get pissed when ANYONE’S liberties are fucked with. But when its them thats getting fucked, all of the sudden they seem to be quite up in arms. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421/20 "2006-08-23T05:10:58Z")
> [@Cuban crisis - V: ruining his chances .....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cuban-crisis-v-ruining-his-chances/23860/12): > > no. I’m saying that everyone barks are me for being paranoid/anti-government/anti-bush, because I get pissed when ANYONE’S liberties are fucked with. But when its them thats getting fucked, all of the sudden they seem to be quite up in arms. that, or some poeple don’t have the skewed paranoid convolutions of conspiracy and government overtaking that you seem to apply to any/all situations… ? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-boxes-in-cars-mandatory/184421.md?page=2)