# Black on white hate crime in Buffalo **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 22, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492 "2009-08-22T20:43:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/41 "2009-08-30T20:21:33Z")
> [@PureXTC](#): > > ^ Does it say anything about it being black on white? No. But it is another gang crime in Buffalo. ---
**Author:** ![OlDirtyBastard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oldirtybastard/32/5384_2.png) [@OlDirtyBastard](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OlDirtyBastard)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/42 "2009-08-30T20:29:42Z")
> [@camarojoe](#): > > Since 4 pages of silly fight replies were deleted, now back on topic. > > [404 Not Found | wgrz.com](http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=69750&catid=37) > > Pastor Asks Congregation For Help In Possible Hate Crime Attack > > It’s a difficult request from a man of God to ask his congregation to possibly turn in a friend or relative who took part in a crime, but, Pastor Darius Pridgen, of True Baptist Church, says he felt obligated. > He said he felt he had to ask after watching the father 18-year old Brian Milligan express his concerns about the lack of response from police and the community after his son’s brutal attack on Ch. 2 Saturday night. > “I’m absolutely 100 percent that it’s a hate crime,” said Milligan Sr. Saturday afternoon outside Erie County Medical Center. > Police say a group of six to twelve African American men beat his son Tuesday night with a concrete brick near the corner of Genesee Street and Floss Avenue. Milligan says his son, who is white, and his African American girlfriend, were repeatedly teased about their relationship before the attack. > “I don’t want to sound wrong, but what happens if this was a black boy laying up on that bed and it was twelve white guys that did this to him?” said Milligan. > Pridgen agrees, “This community has really not rallied around his son, and it’s a concern if his son may have been a black youth beaten by white children. Would we have reacted differently, and I really do believe we would have.” > Milligan is at ECMC with bleeding in his brain and a broken jaw. His girlfriend is scared for her safety. > Buffalo police says it’s treating this case with the same focus it treats all crimes in the city. If you have any information about this attack, you can call the confidential Tipline: 847-2255 media is fucked up, but my theory is that if this story was a little more prominent, it may stir up a retaliation (is that how its spelled?) ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/43 "2009-08-30T20:30:57Z")
> [@OlDirtyBastard](#): > > media is fucked up, but my theory is that if this story was a little more prominent, it may stir up a retaliation (is that how its spelled?) Fuck, I’m sure most people would be happy with finding and prosecuting the ones that attacked him. ---
**Author:** ![BigEd88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/biged88/32/5064_2.png) [@BigEd88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigEd88)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/44 "2009-08-30T20:38:12Z")
> [@Afrank45](#): > > then by this theory where does his black girlfriend remotely come into play? again if 12 kids are sittin around it takes alot to get ALL of them to do something, they would all have to have the same problem with milligan and it would have to bother all of them enough to make them whoop his ass. alot of “ifs” imho. > > this story seems more like a gang thing rather than a pre meditated jumping. sounds like the kid was in the wrong place at the wrong time and his personal life was just a conicidence. > > my point is it is far more likely for him to get jumped by a gang of black kids who dont like white people, then it is for a gang of teenagers to plan out an attack on a kid because he is dating a black girl… > > just my .02 So your saying its easier for a group to randomly decide to jump someone…with a brick…for the heck of it…then to have a plan to jump “the kid dating one of ours”. Tonight I’m gonna walk around with a brick with my gang friends or “tonight we’re going to get that white guy who’s dating XXXX” Random acts of violence over acts of violence with a motive. Ok. Either case, it pretty much describes the state of affairs the city is in and the mayors ads talking about a turn around are all political fluff. There’s also no mention of them taking anything off him. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/45 "2009-08-30T20:42:07Z")
> [@BigEd88](#): > > Either case, it pretty much describes the state of affairs the city is in and the mayors ads talking about a turn around are all political fluff. > > There’s also no mention of them taking anything off him. Bryon Brown is a piece of crap and is only trying to get reelected. He hasn’t done shit to curb the crimes in the city. Hope people aren’t stupid enough to reelect him, but you see a lot of his signs up in the city ☹ ---
**Author:** ![gonzo891](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonzo891/32/5250_2.png) [@gonzo891](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gonzo891)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/46 "2009-08-30T20:45:47Z")
if you wanna talk about BRICK throwing talk to geehee he had it happen in EA with abunch of white boys. just sayin ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/47 "2009-08-30T20:57:53Z")
> [@Afrank45](#): > > PureXTC > I give a compliment and you follow up with implied ignorance. why??? > > what has a black guy ever done directly to you. steal your bike, knock up your sister? dont give me the unemployed, drug dealing, crime usual mumbo jumbo. you have this incredible disdain for black people or “niggers” as you so eliqiuntly put it last i remember. All the things you say you hate about “niggers” are interchangeable problems with america not with african americans. you points were like mad libs and you can replace blacks with whites, mexicans, whatever. You seem like a relatively smart guy why the dumb guy stance on race relations? america is a diverse nation most people are not what you see on tv or what your opinions are based of off. Please dont reply with these 5 guys i work with do this that or the other thing, because that is an incredibly small sampling to base such an opinion off of. Just today I took a ride on Bflo’s east side, my stomping grounds of my youth. A quick ride down Goembel st. was enough to make me sick. Nearly every house was boarded up, burned, or had most or all of the windows broken. It got no better when I went down Loepere st., Wolts ave., or Stanislaus. Every street looked like a war zone. I went down Genesee st, past my oold workplace on Genesee and Rapin, and all my old haunts were empty lots. My mother in laws old house on Loepere, where she lived for 71 years(and you could have eaten off the floor) is gone. She soldd the house in 93’ for 10k. The realator told her ashe was lucky to get that. Three years later i went past and some she monster was barbequing on the front porch, scorched and seared from the heat, the door was broken off, the front window broken and a general mess. I saw in the real estate transactions that HUD gave this slob 38K for the place(Isn"t that justice?) and tore it down. and the house next door, and nest door, and next door, etc. There is now a huge empty lot of weeds where my mother in law was born, raised, had children, and babysat my kids. The old church is now a mosque, the stores are gone, and spray paint is the only home improvement done in the “hood” for the last 20 years. “Whats changed?” I asked myself? Well, it was all white back then and now its all black. If poor whites could maintain the neighborhoods, why can’t blacks? If you are black and wonder why for sale signs go up every time one of you move in, this is why. It isn’t your lovely tanned skin we reject, its the “black plague” now starting to eat up Lovejoy like termites. Don’t tell me no. The answer is YES!!! Thats what happens. I think you all like this, putting whitey on the run, trash and burn the neighborhood and move on. If I’m wrong then name the bflo hood where whites moved out and blacks moved in where it didn’t collapse in 10 years or less. Name one that got better. Right now, my old Chkt. neighborhood of Walden Village is on the verge of collapse, and a quick drive past there in July showed me Black folks sitting outside in a formerly solid white area. Now, its a disaster area, getting worse by the month. I remember every building in the neighborhood, so don’t tell me I’m wrong, I’m not. Please, hurry and call me a racist, just remember to add, “you’re right!” after it. POSTED BY: CATQUICK on Aug 30,2009 at 01:16 am ---
**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/48 "2009-08-30T21:09:06Z")
> [@PureXTC](#): > > snip yeah you got me there that definetly answered my question that i posed to YOU, copying and pasting some nonsense that some bitter old man posted on the buffalo news website. See as i get older i realize that no matter how much i may wanna fight the good fight im just wasting my time arguing with someone who couldnt walk a mile in my shoes. So why get mad when you’ll sit behind your computer screen feeling like you showed me, not in the leaast bit upset. So instead i say good day sir, keep on spreading your ignorance, maybe one day all those terrible black folks will up and leave your precious western new york and go back to africa. untill then i wish you well on your crusade. Now i understand why rick no longer wanted to be a mod… ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/49 "2009-08-31T06:09:33Z")
> [@gonzo891](#): > > if you wanna talk about BRICK throwing talk to geehee he had it happen in EA with abunch of white boys. just sayin who are you? ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/50 "2009-08-31T08:23:36Z")
> [@Afrank45](#): > > See as i get older i realize that no matter how much i may wanna fight the good fight im just wasting my time arguing with someone who couldnt walk a mile in my shoes. So why get mad when you’ll sit behind your computer screen feeling like you showed me, not in the leaast bit upset. > … ![http://thosearemyshoes.com/thosearemyshoes.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/3/c3343f00fcb83309706e6be9a7e5a696a0cd3763.jpeg) As I get older, I Believe I am racist to some extent. Not only by skin tone, but by how idiots choose to present them selfs to the public. Stereotypes exist for a reason. Some choose to defy them, some choose to blame them. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/51 "2009-08-31T08:25:45Z")
> [@Storamin](#): > > 93% of people are accepting on interracial relationships. I guess these guys aren’t. I see you have never been to the south…or lovejoy… Personally I could careless but I think your wayyyy off on 93% ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/52 "2009-08-31T08:53:48Z")
Racism begets more racism. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/53 "2009-08-31T08:55:03Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I see you have never been to the south…or lovejoy… > > Personally I could careless but I think your wayyyy off on 93% how much less could you care? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/54 "2009-08-31T09:01:02Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > how much less could you care? woops ---
**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/55 "2009-08-31T09:09:26Z")
> [@BigEd88](#): > > So your saying its easier for a group to randomly decide to jump someone…with a brick…for the heck of it…then to have a plan to jump “the kid dating one of ours”. > > Tonight I’m gonna walk around with a brick with my gang friends or “tonight we’re going to get that white guy who’s dating XXXX” > > Random acts of violence over acts of violence with a motive. Ok. > > Either case, it pretty much describes the state of affairs the city is in and the mayors ads talking about a turn around are all political fluff. > > There’s also no mention of them taking anything off him. AFrank was talking about gang violence, which can definitely be random initiation stuff, or premeditated retaliatory stuff. Buffalo isn’t handling this any different than they would normally. It’s just the fact that the dad brought it up and that the attackers and that kid are different races. The truth is though, that the only difference you would see if the races were reversed would be how the media handled it. Buffalo doesn’t give a shit either way, but if 12 whites kids beat up a black kid, it would be a national hey day. It seems like the dad was trying to stir some of that up with his comments. I say, WHO FUCKING CARES!!! Why does everything have to be about race. Dude got jumped, big fucking deal. People get shot, jumped, stabbed, involuntarily given aids, anally raped, tortured, and eye socket fucked everyday. Stop fucking caring because it was one race against another. The American government loves killing brown people, it’s their job. We are killing brown people right now so we can have oil. Stop acting like you people care about this shit, none of us do. I hate how we are all like “Stupid niggers” whenever black people suck, but then we ignore all the fucked up shit us white people like doing. Like paying taxes to support a military and foreign policy that aim to keep any country of brown people poor so we can use them as cheap labor. Seriously if you are American, all you have to do is act white and you have the best benefits in the world. And I love how racist white people hate the way black people act and dress, HELLO, if they dress and act that way they are never going to rise above their current situation. And no it’s not racist to think any person is intimidating if they act or dress intimidating, but don’t assume someone is intimidating or aggressive because they are black. And then racist white people(libertarians tend to want to stop spending money on principle over republicans, I mean seriously when has a republican ever made government smaller) bitch about handouts, but all you have to do is give someone just enough to survive and they will most likely not strive for anything higher. That’s what racists want after all isn’t it? I guess I just think everyone is pathetic, myself included. So let’s just eat shit work sleep and fuck. Dude got jumped, was it a hate crime? I guess I would have to hate someone at least a little to hit them with a brick, or I guess if the cable went out and I was bored enough. Dude got jumped and this a issue we need to address, but god bless that pilot that accidentally blew up a village in Iraq so we can keep gas under $3 a gallon. The more we make a big deal out of shit like this, the more it will continue to be a motive for violence. If we never made a big deal out of race, it would eventually cease to be one. A kid only uses race as a motive for violence because he see’s it in his parents and environment and the media. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/56 "2009-08-31T09:21:56Z")
^jesus christ that post gave me a headache. Your last paragraph is dead wrong. People aren’t racist because of the attention it gives them lol. Racism and crime sure as fuck won’t go away if the media stops covering it. Reacting to it will probably HELP the situation, not hurt. This isn’t a problem that you ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/57 "2009-08-31T09:47:42Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I see you have never been to the south…or lovejoy… > > Personally I could careless but I think your wayyyy off on 93% i read it in cosmopolitan… so perhaps the source is suspect ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/58 "2009-08-31T10:13:10Z")
> [@Storamin](#): > > i read it in cosmopolitan… so perhaps the source is suspect know how I know you’re gay? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/59 "2009-08-31T10:29:48Z")
> [@Deathproof](#): > > . Holy fuck. It must hurt to be that disillusioned. :io: ---
**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492/60 "2009-08-31T14:39:07Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > know how I know you’re gay? read it on the LIRR. you’d be surprised what magazines they have on there did not expect NYC to the hamptons to be a 2 hour long trip. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-on-white-hate-crime-in-buffalo/72492.md?page=4)