# black top vs red top

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [October 22, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462 "2007-10-22T21:38:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/1 "2007-10-22T21:38:54Z")

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just want to know what the major differences are…i plan on buyin a motor in the next couple days and what to know what my better choice is

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**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/2 "2007-10-22T21:41:38Z")

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red top, red is associated with speed.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/3 "2007-10-22T21:42:29Z")

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but why…im new to the whole nissan thing…there has to be some difference

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**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/4 "2007-10-22T22:04:39Z")

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> **[Nissan SR20DET](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr20det)**
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> The SR20DET is part of the SR family of engines from Nissan. It is a popular inline four cylinder engine fitted into a variety of cars, generally the Nissan Silvia and 180SX. It also came in the Pulsar GTI-R, Nissan NX Coupe and the Nissan Bluebird. This engine replaced the CA18DE and CA18DET that originally powered the Silvia and 180SX. The CA18 was deemed too expensive to produce and no longer met Japanese emission standards, so it was replaced by the SR20. The SR, just like the out-going CA, w...

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**Author:** ![IRo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iro/32/5564_2.png) [@IRo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IRo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/5 "2007-10-24T10:20:46Z")

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black top 25 more horses and its newer plus more $

[http://www.son240sx.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8983](http://www.son240sx.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8983)

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**Author:** ![Cal](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cal/32/5505_2.png) [@Cal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/6 "2007-10-24T11:24:36Z")

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> [@Jessica Alba Unmasked!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jessica-alba-unmasked/14589/8):
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> red top, red is associated with speed.

Mark, why do you keep relaying bad information. We all know that pink is the fastest top out of all the tops out there. As well a second option is gold.

Whatever you do though, do NOT get a Blacktop.

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**Author:** ![samkam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/samkam/32/5609_2.png) [@samkam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/samkam)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/7 "2007-10-24T11:31:29Z")

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The “Notch Top” black top has VVT on the intake stroke, if I am correct, and the S15 black top has a slightly upgraded T28 turbo, and thus the extra 45 hp(205 crank horsepower for the red top vs. 250 crank horsepower for the S15 blacktop.)

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**Author:** ![Ko-San](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ko-San](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ko-San)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-top-vs-red-top/110462/8 "2007-10-25T19:20:35Z")

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Here is one of the only sites i’ve seen where the backtop is CHEAPER than the redtop  
[www.torontojdm.com](http://www.torontojdm.com)