# Black turbo Camaro SS \> me

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [August 9, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731 "2006-08-09T11:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BLKUUS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BLKUUS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BLKUUS6)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/21 "2006-08-09T19:28:55Z")

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> [@slow84ta](#):
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> :word: half the boost and hes already alot faster than when the sts was apparantly running all out… rear mounts are stupidest setup ever

Yea thats why there is like 3 STS kits in rochester, all making great hp (600+) with good tuning. Whats so bad about em?

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/22 "2006-08-09T21:06:52Z")

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> [@BLKUUS6](#):
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> Yea thats why there is like 3 STS kits in rochester, all making great hp (600+) with good tuning. Whats so bad about em?

bring some of the sts guys to b-lo this weekend…the fastest ones :tup:

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/23 "2006-08-09T21:14:33Z")

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> [@BLKUUS6](#):
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> Yea thats why there is like 3 STS kits in rochester, all making great hp (600+) with good tuning. Whats so bad about em?

I guess making great hp is not a problem with an STS car. Having a fast car with an STS turbo is another story. TurboLS1SS can vouch for the poor performance of the kit as compared to the under the hood(correct way) or a procharger car

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**Author:** ![IROC-Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iroc-z/32/7389_2.png) [@IROC-Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IROC-Z)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/24 "2006-08-09T21:58:11Z")

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> [@95Z28](#):
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> you’re about an hour to late my man…i just had some lady pull out in front of me this evening and wrecked it.

Ahh shit, sorry to hear man. ☹

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**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/25 "2006-08-09T23:57:01Z")

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> [@JnJSpdShop](#):
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> I guess making great hp is not a problem with an STS car. Having a fast car with an STS turbo is another story. TurboLS1SS can vouch for the poor performance of the kit as compared to the under the hood(correct way) or a procharger car

:word: whocares if you have 600hp if you can’t run 10s like a 600hp car should

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**Author:** ![Twizted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twizted/32/7206_2.png) [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/26 "2006-08-10T04:15:36Z")

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> [@95Z28](#):
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> you’re about an hour to late my man…i just had some lady pull out in front of me this evening and wrecked it.

sorry to hear man ☹

> [@BLKUUS6](#):
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> Yea thats why there is like 3 STS kits in rochester, all making great hp (600+) with good tuning. Whats so bad about em?

STS do not impress me if you want to go fast…last i seen was that red GTO that got beat by the two hondas last year. Then he comes back this year faster and got beat by me and 4g63 Girl.

TurboLS1 went the smart way and now he wont even waste his time on a 600cc bike. If there is something that performes better then the red GTO where it can @ least keep up with a 600cc bike id like to see that

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**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/27 "2006-08-10T10:01:54Z")

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:word: show me a fast sts please, the only one around here gets beat by stock ls1 :lol:

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**Author:** ![95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/85e7bf/32.png) [@95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95Z28)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/28 "2006-08-10T10:06:18Z")

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there was a black vert ls1 with a rear mount at lancaster last weekend that was running mid-high 9’s…

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**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/29 "2006-08-10T10:08:39Z")

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> [@95Z28](#):
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> there was a black vert ls1 with a rear mount at lancaster last weekend that was running mid-high 9’s…

:word: thats the one I’m talking about. My buddies mostly stock tpi 350 beat it runing 9.0s and another buddy of mine with a 98 formula with catback beat it running 8.90s…

that is just rediculious, I’m searious… Such a waste of money, whats the kit cost 5k??? or more, dude 5k on a ls1 should get you 11s easy…Cam, Headers, Nitrious…

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**Author:** ![95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/85e7bf/32.png) [@95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95Z28)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/30 "2006-08-10T10:10:53Z")

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:word: it wasn’t even putting down respectable traps, i have no idea what was up with that car.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/31 "2006-08-10T10:15:43Z")

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:lol:didnt Bill put down in the 4-500 range last year (on the STS)? and run mid-high 12’s…?

> [@BLKUUS6](#):
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> Yea thats why there is like 3 STS kits in rochester, all making great hp (600+) with good tuning. Whats so bad about em?

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**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/32 "2006-08-10T10:17:25Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> :lol:didnt Bill put down in the 4-500 range last year (on the STS)? and run mid-high 12’s…?

If I remember correctly the hi dyno run was 560 and the lower one with less boost was 480. I’m not tlaking down bill at all, just sts and I think his best run was 12.6, that is what, 6 tenths better than a bone stock ls1? really bad for the amount of money spent.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/33 "2006-08-10T10:23:30Z")

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It’s all about the powerband. More useable power through the rev-range = faster = front turbo FTW :tup:

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/34 "2006-08-10T10:26:53Z")

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Oh, nothing against Bill at all… just the rearmount setups FTL. meh… not my money.

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> It’s all about the powerband. More useable power through the rev-range = faster…

Which is exactly why Choda runs mid 10’s on a “measly” 400 peak wheel 😉

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**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/35 "2006-08-10T10:27:42Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> Oh, nothing against Bill at all… just the rearmount setups FTL. meh… not my money.  
> Which is exactly why Choda runs mid 10’s on a “measly” 400 peak wheel 😉

:word: powerband for life

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**Author:** ![BLKUUS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BLKUUS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BLKUUS6)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/36 "2006-08-10T12:20:18Z")

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Im not going to get into an argument about whats good and whats bad, but for less money than a procharger, you can get a base STS kit that makes good power for a stock motor. If the Sts kit is done and tuned properly, they will run fine. The “trunk” turbo guys from Rochester are all trapping in the 130’s and one is on a stock motor. If its gonna come down to it, you guys like prochargers, we like STS, you do your thing we do ours. Lets be honest, heads, cam and spray…a lot cheaper and getting similar results without have boost leaks and tuning issues. The guys from Roc will be ready in a few weeks, you guys are coming here as far as i know…

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/37 "2006-08-10T12:29:06Z")

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i made 480 from the cartek tune on 8psi. best run was 12.3 at 121. coulda prolly done better with decent tires. however…car wasnt nothing like it is now.

blkuus…seriously…bring these 130+ trapping cars to blo this weekend. we can have some good races if these guys are really over 130.

the only one i know about from u guys is the red gto, and last time i heard it was making 700+ hp and lost to twisteds r6, which isnt 130+ to the best of my recallection

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/38 "2006-08-10T12:39:18Z")

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> [@BLKUUS6](#):
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> Im not going to get into an argument about whats good and whats bad, but for less money than a procharger, you can get a base STS kit that makes good power for a stock motor. If the Sts kit is done and tuned properly, they will run fine. The “trunk” turbo guys from Rochester are all trapping in the 130’s and one is on a stock motor. If its gonna come down to it, you guys like prochargers, we like STS, you do your thing we do ours. Lets be honest, heads, cam and spray…a lot cheaper and getting similar results without have boost leaks and tuning issues. The guys from Roc will be ready in a few weeks, you guys are coming here as far as i know…

Does one of these fast STS include the 1000 hp black camaro one of our customer was telling us about? If that is the case 1000 hp should be almost trapping 150 mph not 130 mph

> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> the only one i know about from u guys is the red gto, and last time i heard it was making 700+ hp and lost to twisteds r6, which isnt 130+ to the best of my recallection

This was the same guy talking shit to Chuck about racing the Firehawk at Taffys when we showed up there after boating. Yeah R1 \> R6

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**Author:** ![SpenceSpeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spencespeed/32/7355_2.png) [@SpenceSpeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SpenceSpeed)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/39 "2006-08-10T14:12:26Z")

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I raced a 98 black LS1 vert with an STS kit on it a few weeks ago and took him by 2 cars…Chuck(firehawk853) was riding shottie and can vouch for it. I have a slipping A4 tranny and a burnt posi unit. My ride is a 98 TA and the only mods i have are an LS6 intake and headers/exhaust.

Last friday at NYIRP i ran a 8.5X 1/8mile time and 13.3X in the quarter when the tranny let go about 150 feet before the line. I have the timeslip…can post it up.

Yes…it seems for the money the STS kit is not worth it

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**Author:** ![Twizted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twizted/32/7206_2.png) [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-turbo-camaro-ss-me/15731/40 "2006-08-10T14:29:47Z")

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> [@JnJSpdShop](#):
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> Does one of these fast STS include the 1000 hp black camaro one of our customer was telling us about? If that is the case 1000 hp should be almost trapping 150 mph not 130 mph
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> This was the same guy talking shit to Chuck about racing the Firehawk at Taffys when we showed up there after boating. Yeah R1 \> R6

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