# Blackberry Torch **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 3, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700 "2010-08-03T17:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/1 "2010-08-03T17:36:00Z")
[http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrytorch/torch\_features.jsp](http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrytorch/torch_features.jsp) ![http://www.theberryfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/blackberry-torch-9800.png](http://www.theberryfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/blackberry-torch-9800.png) Can you get Angry Birds for this yet? Anyone getting this immediately? I’ve only had the new bold for a few months, i like it, but you can’t play angry brids on it… ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/2 "2010-08-03T18:31:44Z")
looks sweet, finally a touch screen and key board on a nice sized BB ---
**Author:** ![white2abbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white2abbit/32/5602_2.png) [@white2abbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white2abbit)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/3 "2010-08-03T18:45:18Z")
Unfortunately it has a state-of-the-art screen from 1997. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/4 "2010-08-03T18:51:27Z")
yeah i don’t think anyone is blown away… kind of helps me appreciate just how strong thier competitive advantage is in other key value areas… yeah they are losing market share, but they should have totally lost their ass a long time ago considering how poorly their phones stack up against the others. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/5 "2010-08-03T20:35:02Z")
there are security advantages, among others, that really put bb above others. as much as i like droid, its no bb. there are some things bb just does better. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/6 "2010-08-03T20:39:08Z")
except that you can’t play a decent game of angry birds on it… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/7 "2010-08-03T22:17:00Z")
No angry birds for BB. It’s on iphone and symbian now, coming soon to android. But yeah, BBOS6 and the vertical slider layout is pretty attractive. It’s like they mashed together all the good parts of a palm pre, droid, and blackberry bold. If this thing’s not built like a plastic kids toy with no QC like all of their other high end phones of the last 12 months I’d consider coming back. ---
**Author:** ![Philly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/philly/32/5748_2.png) [@Philly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Philly)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/8 "2010-08-04T04:41:43Z")
I’ve been repping Blackberry for 3 years when I got my first one. I now got the iPhone 4 and Blackberry cant compare even a little bit. The one main flaw for me with the iPhone was the email push. Now the iPhone 4 does it, maybe not as fast but its still pretty quick. I can now make homemade HD porn movies on the fly. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/9 "2010-08-04T04:47:54Z")
if i had just a personal phone (as opposed to corp w/ BES) i would probably grab a N900 like Josh’s… that thing is intense. Can’t use a touch screen keyboard on the iphone though… it’s only useful for gaming and apps afaic ---
**Author:** ![Philly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/philly/32/5748_2.png) [@Philly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Philly)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/10 "2010-08-04T05:03:42Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Can’t use a touch screen keyboard on the iphone though… it’s only useful for gaming and apps afaic Bing buddy, trust me I thought the same thing. 5 days on this thing and I’m faster then I was on my BB. Gotta rock it long ways, then you get the big buttons. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/11 "2010-08-04T05:50:33Z")
[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38544557/ns/technology\_and\_science-wireless/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38544557/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/) > Most flagship smart phones have a 1 GHz processor and a high-resolution screen, 480 x 800 pixels or greater. It’s what you might call the price of doing business. BlackBerry’s new flagship has a 624 MHz processor. Because of this, interface and software sluggishness was immediately observed by reviewers such as Laptop’s Mark Spoonauer and Engadget’s Nilay Patel at the New York launch event. To carry it back to the mid-life crisis metaphor, as other phonemakers — Motorola, Samsung, HTC — hid their insecurities in Corvette convertibles, RIM chose the Sebring. > And the screen? At 360 x 480, it isn’t even close to the baseline. Apple calls its 960 x 640 iPhone 4 screen Retina Display, since it has pixels so small the eye can’t see them. The BlackBerry Torch’s display has one third as many pixels in almost the same space. As All Things D’s John Paczkowski said on Twitter, “They should call it Cataract Display.” Ouch ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/12 "2010-08-04T06:09:34Z")
If iPhone had a way to contact BB users via PIN I would switch right now…that’s the only thing holding me back. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/13 "2010-08-04T06:24:47Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38544557/ns/technology\_and\_science-wireless/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38544557/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/) > > Ouch thanks, not surprised at all. why would they even bother launching this with features so far out dated already? Will this be another BB Storm? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/14 "2010-08-04T06:28:08Z")
BB has been leaning on the corporate stuff for a long time now. They’re losing that with other SSL enabled email solutions though. I just saw a commercial the other night for Blackberry Messenger. I guess they figure if they can’t wow you with good hardware, they can try and convince you that BB Messenger is god’s gift to messaging. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/15 "2010-08-04T06:34:08Z")
Well it’s not outdated for Blackberry, and they always march to their own drummer. It’s a phone for getting shit done, not impressing other dudes. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/16 "2010-08-04T06:37:25Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Well it’s not outdated for Blackberry, and they always march to their own drummer. It’s a phone for getting shit done, not impressing other dudes. :shrug: That’s true…but other phones get shit done too. From what I have seen, it’s the most non-intuitive UI out there. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/17 "2010-08-04T06:45:46Z")
BB should stop making phones and assimilate other phones… like the Nokia N900 and pull a commission off them… I love BB simply because it’s what i’m used to and i guess because it’s Canadian but there is a lot of garbage decision making going on in that place… on the subject of thier commercials and marketing efforts… it’s second grader shit… embarassingly bad. They had a whole campaign last year or so where there was nothing about BB, just a U2 concert and then they flash the BB logo at the end of an internationally synidcated television commercial. “Oh Hai, we are co-branding with a big band from the 80’s who hasn’t had a relevant record since Achtung Baby in 1991. Come buy a phone dude!” They might as well start Rick-Rolling people instead of advertising. ---
**Author:** ![Philly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/philly/32/5748_2.png) [@Philly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Philly)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/18 "2010-08-04T06:57:20Z")
Seriously Blackberry has to pick up their game and stop thinking that they are the shit because of BBM and email push. Other then that they have nothing. and just the standard text massaging on the iPhone is just as good as BBM anyway, except for the emoticons. I dont use anything else but 🙂 ☹ :S anyway tho. They’re slowly gunna die if they dont pick up their game, and Waterloo is gunna turn into the next downtown Hamilton. lol ---
**Author:** ![white2abbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white2abbit/32/5602_2.png) [@white2abbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white2abbit)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/19 "2010-08-04T10:10:15Z")
iPhone FTW. Just played with a co-workers iPhone 4 (hopefully I’ll get mine in the next couple of days), and it’s amazing. Blows my 3G out of the water. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700/20 "2010-08-04T10:39:44Z")
Consumers can brag about anything they want but until big business is onboard it’s all moot. It takes a lot more work to sell 10,000 individual plans and phones on one brand than it does to sell 10,000 blackberries to one big corporate account. Blackberry has the enterprise security rep and it’s still very effective. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-torch/158700.md?page=2)