# Blank HFP 2012 Civic **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 9, 2011, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227 "2011-11-09T06:34:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/1 "2011-11-09T06:34:02Z")
For those who care and/or have not seen, seems like amongst the criticism of the new 2012 Civic, Honda is trying something else. > **[Honda now offering body-in-white Civics with HPD racing components](https://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/02/honda-now-offering-body-in-white-civics-with-hpd-racing-componen/)** > > There are few things more inspiring than a blank canvas, and Honda has recently given the company's enthusiasts just that with its new body-in-white Civic. The chassis is perfect for racecar builders who would otherwise spend plenty of time, energy... ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/2 "2011-11-09T07:00:19Z")
> There’s word yet on whether or not the shells come with a VIN, of course. This would be imporant ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/3 "2011-11-09T07:06:33Z")
I love this idea. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/4 "2011-11-09T07:42:59Z")
Do any other manufactures do this? It’s a pretty cool idea. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/5 "2011-11-09T08:27:02Z")
Pretty cool idea! Hopefully it comes with a VIN incase someone wants to also hit the roads Id only buy it if it came with those sweet LEDs 😛 ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/6 "2011-11-09T08:33:51Z")
I’m guessing they won’t have VIN’s, due to insurance/liability issues on Honda’s end…I mean, how can they sell a shell of a car that’s road legal? ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/7 "2011-11-09T09:05:24Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Do any other manufactures do this? It’s a pretty cool idea. I know ford has done it with mustangs for a while now ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/8 "2011-11-09T09:24:39Z")
honda did this in japan with the integra chassis ---
**Author:** ![Copper280z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copper280z/32/5464_2.png) [@Copper280z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Copper280z)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/9 "2011-11-09T09:41:54Z")
I’d bet that there is no VIN, there’s no safety or emissions stuff, so I doubt that it would be allowed even if honda wanted to. ---
**Author:** ![bluelawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@bluelawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bluelawn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/10 "2011-11-09T10:00:49Z")
no vin, i think these are to build spec. racecars, the ford BIW didn’t have vin’s either ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/11 "2011-11-09T10:07:06Z")
Might be able to qualify it as “homemade” since you’re assembling it yourself. Pretty sure that is how Ariel Atom owners get their cars Titled/registered. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/12 "2011-11-09T11:48:03Z")
I would like to see someone build this with a S2000 AP1 motor etc. so it could be RWD I REALLY like the brake ducts! ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/13 "2011-11-09T11:59:10Z")
> [@rugsr](#): > > I would like to see someone build this with a S2000 AP1 motor etc. so it could be RWD > > I REALLY like the brake ducts! Would certainly be cool, but it would require a lot of customization aside from just throwing parts at it. Engine mounts, trans tunnel, rear subframe/diff mounting, wheel hubs, etc… ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/14 "2011-11-09T12:03:49Z")
GM and Ford have been doing this for years. I think BMW might do it as well, super different. New Camaro $7K no vin ![http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2010-chevrolet-camaro-body-in-white_100190711_m.jpg](http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2010-chevrolet-camaro-body-in-white_100190711_m.jpg) For Mustang in white $6K ![http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/09Mustang102210a.jpg](http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/09Mustang102210a.jpg) Challenger in white $6K ![http://i37.tinypic.com/nyfxwn.jpg](http://i37.tinypic.com/nyfxwn.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/15 "2011-11-09T12:21:00Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > GM and Ford have been doing this for years. I think BMW might do it as well, super different. But who wants a RWD race car? ---
**Author:** ![Superium](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/superium/32/7405_2.png) [@Superium](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Superium)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/16 "2011-11-09T15:00:00Z")
Sounds more ideal for collision shops to purchase these shells to repair wrecked vehicles than buliding a track car out of them. ---
**Author:** ![Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/17 "2011-11-09T15:05:49Z")
Awesome idea but I can only see these being used by professional sponsored teams or a rich enthusiast. Too bad you can’t actually save money by building an entire vehicle yourself. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/18 "2011-11-09T15:25:28Z")
> [@Neon](#): > > Awesome idea but I can only see these being used by professional sponsored teams or a rich enthusiast. Too bad you can’t actually save money by building an entire vehicle yourself. IDK… buy wrecked car, buy shell, take important parts off wrecked car, combine with aftermarket parts = probably less than modding a clean example of that car… > [@Superium](#): > > Sounds more ideal for collision shops to purchase these shells to repair wrecked vehicles than buliding a track car out of them. Can you imagine the labor involved in switching EVERYTHING. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/19 "2011-11-09T16:54:15Z")
> [@Bakes"](#): > > For those who care and/or have not seen, seems like amongst the criticism of the new 2012 Civic, Honda is trying something else. Just an example of how little of Honda’s factory components are needed to compete in SCCA World Challenge and the Grand Am Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge. Which goes to show how much the teams put into cars. Definitely little reason to give Honda an attaboy. If you want to brag about new production car racing do it in Showroom Stock or Touring where they leave the interior in, leave the motor 100% stock, suspension spring rates stock, and the car performance is factory. ---
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227/20 "2011-11-09T16:58:56Z")
I wonder what the process is to order any of these cars? > [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > Just an example of how little of Honda’s factory components are needed to compete in SCCA World Challenge and the Grand Am Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge. Which goes to show how much the teams put into cars. Definitely little reason to give Honda an attaboy. > > If you want to brag about new production car racing do it in Showroom Stock or Touring where they leave the interior in, leave the motor 100% stock, suspension spring rates stock, and the car performance is factory. and I would still kick your ass! [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blank-hfp-2012-civic/218227.md?page=2)