# Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 25, 2007, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570 "2007-01-25T08:08:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/141 "2008-01-07T06:09:04Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > :eek: Come on its sony we’re talking about… ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/142 "2008-01-07T20:32:24Z")
Now this is the nail in the coffin if it goes through… > **[hd articles on Engadget](https://www.engadget.com/tags/hd/)** > > Everything you need to know about the latest smartphones, tablets, smartwatches and more. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/143 "2008-01-08T11:35:49Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Now this is the nail in the coffin if it goes through… > > [http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/07/paramount-following-warner-out-the-hd-dvd-door/](http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/07/paramount-following-warner-out-the-hd-dvd-door/) agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Djs87](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djs87/32/5132_2.png) [@Djs87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Djs87)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/144 "2008-01-08T12:08:15Z")
ps3 here i come! _waits for sony bashing response from buickgn_ ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/145 "2008-01-08T13:37:51Z")
Blu-ray was clearly winning and then HD-DVD basically bought a bunch of exclusivity rights to keep them in the game. Looking back on this 5 years from now it will be Sony’s decision to put the Blu-ray player in every PS3 that caused them to win the format war. They moved 1.3 million PS3’s just over the holiday season. That’s a lot of people looking for content to play on their shiny new Blu-ray players. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/146 "2008-01-08T14:25:57Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Looking back on this 5 years from now it will be Sony’s decision to put the Blu-ray player in every PS3 that caused them to win the format war :bs: We’ve already been saying that for a year. You’re apparently 6 years late. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/147 "2008-01-08T14:44:32Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > We’ve already been saying that for a year. You’re apparently 6 years late. 😛 Post #8 in this thread… > [@JayS](#): > > My vote is blu-ray, for the simple fact I learned in the other thread. > 1 million players in homes \> 200,000 players in homes. > The PS3 will start getting some good titles soon, and that will drive up PS3 sales, further distancing blu-ray players from HD-DVD. When history gets written about Betamax2, I mean HD-DVD, it’s ultimate cause of death won’t be this exclusivity deal or that exclusivity deal, it will be the PS3 and it’s built in Blu-ray player. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/148 "2008-01-08T14:46:37Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Well if Target carries more Blu Ray discs, fucking SOLD. I am going EXCLUSIVE BD now. :picard: > > the PS3 plays BD’s but it does not FULLY support BD 1.1 and they are on 1.3 IIRC. The PS3 does not support TrueHD sound either so it’s not the greatest BD player out there. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great system with a TON of potential but it’s not the end all/be all entertainment systems. “1.1” and “1.3” esp in reference to TrueHD are references to the HDMI standard, not, BD ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/149 "2008-01-08T14:57:11Z")
> [@walter](#): > > “1.1” and “1.3” esp in reference to TrueHD are references to the HDMI standard, not, BD Truth. Here is the snippet from EngadgetHD > Not too long ago we asked you [what the best Blu-ray player was](http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/20/ask-engadget-hd-which-blu-ray-player-should-i-pick-up-for-the-h/) and as many would expect one of the hottest answers was the [PS3](http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/PS3/). At $400, with the PS3’s ability to be updated to support just about any new Blu-ray feature, it seems like the best value; but there’s one thing about the PS3 that is often overlooked. No, we’re not talking about the lack of IR remote (easily solved with a $15 adapter) we’re talking about the limited audio codec support. Sure, the PS3 supports Doby TrueHD decoding internally, but it lacks a big one, [DTS HD](http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/DTSHD/). For whatever reason, the PS3 [does not support bitstream output](http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/08/no-dolby-truehd-or-dts-hd-for-ps3-owners/) – no, not even [TrueHD](http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/TrueHD/) – only PCM, and since there’s no DTS HD decoder built in, that leaves out one of the hottest new codecs. Sure, only [~15% of Blu-ray titles](http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/07/13/every-blu-ray-statistic-you-could-ever-crave/) even include a DTS HD sound track, but judging by the upcoming releases from Sony, Disney, Fox, New Line and Lionsgate, we’d say this number is going to get a lot bigger. At this point, the best option is the [Panasonic DMP-BD30](http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/15/panasonics-dmp-bd30-already-making-the-rounds/) and a newer HDMI [1.3a A/V receiver](http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/04/24/onkyos-new-receivers-feature-both-xm-and-sirius-satellite-radio/) with all the decoders built in, but who knows, maybe [Sony](http://www.engadgethd.com/category/sony/) will figure out a way to upgrade the PS3. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/150 "2008-01-08T15:12:51Z")
> [@Djs87](#): > > ps3 here i come! > > _waits for sony bashing response from buickgn_ naw, enjoy your overpriced, not even #1 on the charts console 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/151 "2008-01-08T16:17:11Z")
I’m sold on Blueray just for the fact that they actually honored their REBATE for movies as opposed to POS HD-DVD bastards :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![Djs87](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djs87/32/5132_2.png) [@Djs87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Djs87)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/152 "2008-01-08T20:48:22Z")
> [@BuickGN](#): > > naw, enjoy your overpriced, not even #1 on the charts console 🙂 Haha Ill accept that as your comment. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/153 "2008-01-09T12:21:49Z")
HERE IS THE FINAL NAIL… [On Tuesday, the Financial Times reported that Paramount Pictures, which currently distributes movies only in HD DVD, would switch to Blu-ray. The newspaper said Paramount had a clause in its contract with the HD DVD licensers that allowed it to do so if Warner Bros. dropped HD DVD.] Here is the link… > **[Blu-Ray Disc Backers Taste Victory in DVD Format War](http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/01/09/blu-ray-disc-backers-taste-victory-in-dvd-format-war.html)** > > Warner Bros. defection is bitter defeat for rival HD DVD format; Sony, Blu-ray allies try not to gloat. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/154 "2008-01-09T12:38:35Z")
[http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aQMGgh2LV\_bU](http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aQMGgh2LV_bU) Paramount just denied that. _But Blue Ray is well on its way to winning, it will just take longer_ ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/155 "2008-01-09T12:40:00Z")
^ They can still get out of the deal, that is all the article said. They will eventually I would think. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/156 "2008-01-09T12:43:44Z")
:tup: I’ve been waiting for a clear winner before I bought one. Looks like I might be getting one earlier in 2008 than I thought. ---
**Author:** ![9c1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1/32/7392_2.png) [@9c1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/157 "2008-01-09T14:50:37Z")
You boys have it all wrong. The true savior of Blu-Ray is right here: > **[hd articles on Engadget](https://www.engadget.com/tags/hd/)** > > Everything you need to know about the latest smartphones, tablets, smartwatches and more. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/158 "2008-01-14T12:28:48Z")
HDDVD “fights back”… desperation move IMO. While they maybe inspired by all the “web 2.0” type marketing modicums going around, I don’t think that they can win this battle from the Consumer level - Up. [http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN1441663320080114](http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN1441663320080114) > Toshiba cuts HD player prices in Blu-ray fight > Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:18pm EST > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Consumer electronics maker Toshiba Corp (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Monday **_it is slashing prices of its HD DVD format players by between 40 to 50 percent as major Hollywood studios move to embrace Sony Corp’s_** (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) Blu-ray format high definition DVDs. > > Toshiba America Consumer Products said it cut prices of its HD DVD players effective January 13 to boost market adoption of its next-generation DVD players by mainstream consumers after what it said was a successful fourth quarter in unit sales. > > “While price is one of the consideration elements for the early adopter, it is a deal-breaker for the mainstream consumer,” said Toshiba executive Yoshi Uchiyama in a statement. > > Toshiba’s players will now start as low as $149 going up to $399 for the top-of-range player. > > The company said it is also stepping up its marketing drive with major initiatives including joint advertising campaigns with studios and extended pricing strategies. Toshiba said it will continue with on-going promotions including five HD DVD titles for free with any of its HD DVD player. > > The battle to dominate the next generation of DVD players appeared to have tipped in Sony’s favor earlier this month when the biggest Hollywood studio Warner Bros, a unit of Time Warner Inc (TWX.N: Quote, Profile, Research), said it would exclusively support Blu-ray disc. It had previously supported both next-generation formats. > > Analysts saw Warner Bros’s move as an end to the next generation DVD war that they say has confused consumers and delayed the development of a multibillion-dollar market. > > _So far Toshiba has secured agreements with studios including Universal Home Video, Viacom Inc’s (VIAb.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG_. > > But Blu-ray has support from _News Corp’s (NWSa.N: Quote, Profile, Research) 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co (DIS.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp (LGF.N: Quote, Profile, Research)._ > > In addition Sony’s PlayStation 3 video game system can play Blu-ray movies while Microsoft Corp’s (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Xbox 360 works with HD DVD. But Microsoft said at the Consumer Electronics Show earlier this month that it could consider supporting Blu-ray technology should consumers want it. ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/159 "2008-01-14T12:38:02Z")
blu-ray, I hate Microsoft’s involvement in HD-DVD ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570/160 "2008-01-15T11:44:30Z")
Well since I have received 6 free blu-ray movies so far and have a PS3 I’ll vote for Blu-Ray. Do I know who will win? No. Just hoping for the Blu [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd/23570.md?page=9)