# BMW 335i is the next Supra

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 17, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181 "2007-01-17T10:47:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/1 "2007-01-17T10:47:51Z")

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Except better looking and handling… errr, all debates aside, impressive on nothing but ECU tuning, and exhaust. (no boost controller, or any other aftermarket shit).

 ![http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/shivpathak/405lbft.jpg](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/shivpathak/405lbft.jpg)  
12psi tapering to 9psi at redline.

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/2 "2007-01-17T10:48:37Z")

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nice :tup:

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/3 "2007-01-17T10:54:57Z")

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wow 400 down to 225 by redline. thats a serious drop off.

impressive numbers, but im not real big on being able to “burn rubber man” but have nothing left up top. granted im sure a that some simple bolt ons would flatten that out.

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**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/4 "2007-01-17T10:57:49Z")

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meh, supra ftw

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/5 "2007-01-17T10:59:03Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> wow 400 down to 225 by redline. thats a serious drop off.
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> impressive numbers, but im not real big on being able to “burn rubber man” but have nothing left up top. granted im sure a that some simple bolt ons would flatten that out.

It’s a perfect graph IMO, 400ft/lbs tapering off and picked up by 350whp looks great to me.

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/6 "2007-01-17T11:02:13Z")

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lol @ looks nicer than a supra.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess… you euro whore

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/7 "2007-01-17T11:03:47Z")

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HAHAHA, I was waiting for someone to pick up on that. It’ll be interesting to see what stock internals hold upto once MLS comes out with a .140 headgasket for the 335i. Seeing as how stock compression ratio is 10.2:1

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/8 "2007-01-17T11:03:47Z")

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some one needs to post up that t-shirt…

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/9 "2007-01-17T11:04:01Z")

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DAMN YOU, now I might be thinking about these as well, I like how they look,(well minus the wheel arches they just do not look right to me) and hearing/reading more about the motor…

edit: not bad $44k for everything I would want

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/10 "2007-01-17T11:06:29Z")

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Even stock it has such sick torque, max at 1300 rpms? That’s like “i don’t care what gear i’m in” perfect.

X…

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/11 "2007-01-17T11:06:48Z")

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^  
thats great, but it would be nice if it held that tq.  
burning up tires at 1500 is sweet, having 400 ftlb tq at 6k rpm is better

> [@MPD47](#):
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> It’s a perfect graph IMO, 400ft/lbs tapering off and picked up by 350whp looks great to me.

that says 250 on the right side, not 350. if it was 350 at 6750 rpm still then i would be like “hells yeah, sign me up”

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/12 "2007-01-17T11:08:50Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> that says 250 on the right side, not 350. if it was 350 at 6750 rpm still then i would be like “hells yeah, sign me up”

torque on right, HP on left

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/13 "2007-01-17T11:12:36Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> torque on right, HP on left

it certainly is

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/14 "2007-01-17T11:19:19Z")

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i agree with ZD, flatten that torque curve a bit and i’m in.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/15 "2007-01-17T11:20:28Z")

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STD FTL

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/16 "2007-01-17T11:25:55Z")

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And where you are pointing, the HP curve is still up at 350whp. I agree exactly at 7000rpm the torque and HP fall of dramatically (i suspect due to back pressure, the hotsides face each other with a “T” shaped downpipe, and due to the 12psi - 9psi taper). But with the mountain of torque behind it in the RPM range you can afford to shift at 6750 and still be in the powerband.

You know, power under the curve. Which if you follow it, is extremely flat. Torque gets you moving, HP sustains it, ya know?

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**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/17 "2007-01-17T11:32:08Z")

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> [@articzap](#):
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> meh, supra ftw

Which would you rather drive a date in, or on a road trip?

> [@Daddie](#):
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> lol @ looks nicer than a supra.

well, it doesn’t look “boy racer” - that’s been a big plus in my book recently.

As Mike said, better boost control w/ less taper, maybe some other light mods, and this thing would be RETARDED FAST. Hmm, I wonder if you could re-tune it to run on E85, at a much richer AFR - I remember seeing what the Exige S picked up with just new fuel / retune.

I’m by no means saying this is a perfect car, but it seems pretty close to that Swiss-Army-Knife one-car-fits-most-needs kinda thing, or at least an awesome Daily.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/18 "2007-01-17T11:32:59Z")

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3500lbs

Enough said.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/19 "2007-01-17T11:33:37Z")

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400+ftlbs @ the wheels does feel nice, its good for cracking my neck

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-335i-is-the-next-supra/23181/20 "2007-01-17T11:40:03Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> 3500lbs
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> Enough said.

Supra Turbo : 3505  
BMW 335i : 3561 lb

Anyone denying there isnt a comparison between these cars from a performance stand point is an idiot.

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