# BMW indie shops?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 10, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156 "2007-09-10T19:57:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/1 "2007-09-10T19:57:33Z")

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anybody know of any good bmw independant shops? i was hoping to find somebody with a gt1 tool so when i replace my clutch in the spring they can re initialize my trans so i wont have to get raped by the dealer

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/2 "2007-09-10T20:00:40Z")

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i seem to recall jason from black forest saying he was getting a BMW scan tool recently? he may have already done it? regardless, he’s the guy to talk to for an independent shop. he’s bracketracer on here.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/3 "2007-09-10T20:14:07Z")

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[quote=“Dex,post:2,topic:35156"”]

i seem to recall jason from black forest saying he was getting a BMW scan tool recently? he may have already done it? regardless, he’s the guy to talk to for an independent shop. he’s bracketracer on here.

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x2

pm bracketracer, cool guy too :tup:

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**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/4 "2007-09-10T20:15:44Z")

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[http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36735](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36735)

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**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/5 "2007-09-10T20:16:54Z")

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OT: viper are you in west seneca? if so i think i saw you the other day. i cant remember where though.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/6 "2007-09-10T20:44:15Z")

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[quote=“cky89,post:5,topic:35156"”]

OT: viper are you in west seneca? if so i think i saw you the other day. i cant remember where though.

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no i live downtown, but im usually all over the place

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/7 "2007-09-10T20:44:31Z")

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[quote=“Studderin,post:4,topic:35156"”]

[http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36735](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36735)

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link no workie

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/8 "2007-09-10T20:54:44Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:7,topic:35156"”]

link no workie

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it’s a link to a thread on bracketracer getting lifts installed at his new shop. i don’t see the relevance past the fact that he’s not open yet. as far as i know, he’s operating out of his personal garage right now. he mentioned getting a scan tool soon in a previous post of his though, so i’d imagine by the time you get your clutch done, he’d be able to take care of you on this if he’s getting the appropriate tool.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/9 "2007-09-10T21:00:41Z")

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yea i got it to work, i had to re login for some stupid reason…

and yea i was reading the thread and sent him a PM… no offense but does anybody know his backround?

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**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/10 "2007-09-10T21:19:32Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:6,topic:35156"”]

no i live downtown, but im usually all over the place

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i think it may have been you, it also may not have been in west seneca, its been a hectic past few days, i just remember seeing a hawt bmw with sparco’s.

if it was in fact you that is one hell of a nice car you got there :tup:

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**Author:** ![Shifty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shifty/32/4959_2.png) [@Shifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shifty)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/11 "2007-09-10T21:28:36Z")

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PM: nytrus1 if he doesn’t have one, I’m sure he knows who does.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/12 "2007-09-10T22:14:52Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:9,topic:35156"”]

yea i got it to work, i had to re login for some stupid reason…

and yea i was reading the thread and sent him a PM… no offense but does anybody know his backround?

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[http://www.dubsinthebuff.com/forum/all-other-euro-cars/13052-todays-take-italian-car-2.html](http://www.dubsinthebuff.com/forum/all-other-euro-cars/13052-todays-take-italian-car-2.html)

[http://www.dubsinthebuff.com/forum/off-topic/12967-nice-day-drive.html](http://www.dubsinthebuff.com/forum/off-topic/12967-nice-day-drive.html)

[http://www.dubsinthebuff.com/forum/all-other-euro-cars/12971-next-project.html](http://www.dubsinthebuff.com/forum/all-other-euro-cars/12971-next-project.html)

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/13 "2007-09-11T04:14:27Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:9,topic:35156"”]

yea i got it to work, i had to re login for some stupid reason…

and yea i was reading the thread and sent him a PM… no offense but does anybody know his backround?

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as jam said, he’s an established member on dub in the buff. if you are not already on there, sign up and read about him. i can’t think of one time i’ve ever read a bad thing about him. an extremely good friend of mine (speedracer18t) took his 1.8T jetta to bracketracer all the time and now brings his e46 to jason. from what i understand, a lot of the exotic car owners around here bring their cars to him to. he always posts pics of these baller ass lambos he is doing work on.

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/14 "2007-09-11T04:25:48Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:9,topic:35156"”]

yea i got it to work, i had to re login for some stupid reason…

and yea i was reading the thread and sent him a PM… no offense but does anybody know his backround?

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I had work done by him before, hes gets a A+++ in my book.

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**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/15 "2007-09-11T04:34:14Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:9,topic:35156"”]

yea i got it to work, i had to re login for some stupid reason…

and yea i was reading the thread and sent him a PM… no offense but does anybody know his backround?

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Totally fair question, and one I would ask if I were in your position.

Quick and dirty background:  
5/93-6/98 - owner of Black Forest Motorsport in Knoxville, TN (mostly an indy Mercedes shop)  
5/93 - 6/98 - tech at European Motor Werks in Knoxville, TN (worked on everything Euro, and needed this as a full-time gig, since I wasn’t quite as business savvy then as I am now)  
6/98 - 11/99 - lead Audi/Porsche tech at Ken Garff VW/Audi/Porsche in Provo, UT  
11/99 - 11/03 - Service mgr/lead technician/General Manager at Lamborghini Salt Lake City  
1/05 - 5/05 - lead tech/diagnostician at Sutherland’s Service in Pittsford, NY  
6/05 - 2/07 - Service mgr/lead tech for Premium Auto on Sheridan (that is, until I found out my boss was a dirty f\*\*k)

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**Author:** ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/16 "2007-09-11T12:47:44Z")

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Sutherlands and premium hmmm… might want to leave those out of the resume.  
LOL just joking. I’ve dealt with Sutherlands, seams to be a nice place  
Wolfburg cant be a crook- if he was he wouldnt just be doing weekends

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**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/17 "2007-09-11T12:58:25Z")

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[quote=“Pauly,post:16,topic:35156"”]

Sutherlands and premium hmmm… might want to leave those out of the resume.  
LOL just joking. I’ve dealt with Sutherlands, seams to be a nice place  
Wolfburg cant be a crook- if he was he wouldnt just be doing weekends

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LOL!  
Yeah, Sutherland’s - home of factory buybacks at a great price. Also home of management who doesn’t seem to have a problem calling some employees (not me) stupid assholes  
Then Premium…christ, where do I start. You know what really pisses me off is that I did what I was hired to do, which was to take a service department that had run the previous 4 years in the red, and make it black. I did that in my first year. Then things just started getting weird. And here I pondered why Mike didn’t really care about my month-end reporting. Why care about reporting if you’re not using them to send in tax returns?!

Weekends…733k, and he gets weekends. Man, cash is king and the state and county want their damn money back.

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**Author:** ![RedrRocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrrocket/32/7193_2.png) [@RedrRocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedrRocket)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/18 "2007-09-11T13:38:48Z")

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so your a different black forest mortosport than the Grand-am mustang guys.

black forest or blackforest

![http://www.allfordmustangs.com/articles/uploads/lgrandcup-2006-ls-tc-0116.jpg](http://www.allfordmustangs.com/articles/uploads/lgrandcup-2006-ls-tc-0116.jpg)

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**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-indie-shops/35156/19 "2007-09-11T13:48:09Z")

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Yeah, it came up in my shop opening thread on the advertiser’s forum.
