# BMW M7 and M everything else for that matter **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 13, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217 "2009-01-13T06:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/1 "2009-01-13T06:32:55Z")
Looks like BMW is going to be throwing the M badge around some more. M7 plus X3 and X5 M suvs. The article also mentions the 7 series having a Xdrive system (AWD?) as well for the next generation. The M7 would be the first 7 series with an M badge according to the article and obliviously going against the AMG S crowd. What do the BMW purist think? > **[Spy Shots: Is BMW working on an M7?](https://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/13/spy-shots-is-bmw-working-on-an-m7/)** > > Don't get us wrong; we've got no beef with enormously powerful luxury vehicles. In fact, we love 'em. But while Mercedes' AMG division has shoehorned their bestial power plants into all manner of vehicles big and small, BMW's Motorsport division has... ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/2 "2009-01-13T07:30:30Z")
I like the BMW’s but I personally am holding out for the M12 ---
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/3 "2009-01-13T07:41:37Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > I like the BMW’s but I personally am holding out for the M12 me too ![http://www.freewebs.com/hipercars/NOBLE%201w-large.jpg](http://www.freewebs.com/hipercars/NOBLE%201w-large.jpg) so is BMW going to dillute the “M” title until it no longer implies any real performance? ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/4 "2009-01-13T07:59:52Z")
> [@khoveraki](#): > > me too > > so is BMW going to dillute the “M” title until it no longer implies any real performance? Nothing new there. > Frankly, its never been all that difficult to turn a run of the mill BMW into a reasonable facsimile of an M model like an M3, M5 or M6. All you had to do was order the appropriate body kit from your friendly neighborhood BMW dealer and slap it on your car. In spite of this, Europeans have generally had an even easier time thanks to M-Sport packages on virtually every model in the lineup including those that didn’t offer M equivalents. The M-Sport packages generally consist of assorted aero bits, wheels, upgraded seats and interior bits emblazoned with the “M” badge. > BMW is reportedly getting ready to offer M-Sport packages in the U.S. for the first time beginning in early 2009. The 1 and 5 series will apparently be the first models to get blessed. Given the slow down in sales and BMW’s recent profit warnings, this should come as no surprise as the packages will surely be priced with a generous profit margin built in. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/5 "2009-01-13T08:22:36Z")
> [@khoveraki](#): > > so is BMW going to dillute the “M” title until it no longer implies any real performance? theyll all have big motors and piles of HP, im sure they will perform fine. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/6 "2009-01-13T08:24:39Z")
BMW M badge ! = Chevy SS badge. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/7 "2009-01-13T08:27:22Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > Nothing new there. So sort of like the Audi S-line trim? ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/8 "2009-01-13T08:34:03Z")
> [@ryanmcell](#): > > BMW M badge ! = Chevy SS badge. Lets not get carried away here… ---
**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/9 "2009-01-13T08:50:46Z")
BMW has always dabbled with an M7 Idea… this is nothing new ![http://www.bmw48.com/wallpaper/bmw-m7-wallpapers.gif](http://www.bmw48.com/wallpaper/bmw-m7-wallpapers.gif) I’m all for it ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/10 "2009-01-13T09:13:54Z")
I guess the M X5 was interesting as well > **[VIDEO: BMW drives the X5 M](https://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/22/video-bmw-drives-the-x5-m/)** > > Click above to view the teaser video of the BMW X5 M after the jump ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/11 "2009-01-13T09:31:06Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > I guess the M X5 was interesting as well > > [VIDEO: BMW drives the X5 M - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/22/video-bmw-drives-the-x5-m/) Pretty slick looking. Must be trying to compete with the 10 people in the world who want a SUV and a sportscar and looked at the Cayanne (sp?) and now have two options. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/12 "2009-01-13T09:31:23Z")
calm down people… nobody has said they will make all these cars as M cars… they might just be M-package, M-tech, alpina etc… it’s all speculation at this point. ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/13 "2009-01-13T12:23:50Z")
i doubt they will be stuffing v10’s and v8’s from the M cars in every vehicle, so the M car is still original imho. ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/14 "2009-01-13T13:21:40Z")
Whats the big deal they have been offering M-sport cars for a while now across the pond. There will be M-sport 3 and 1 series eventually. Its kind of like the ZHP 330i they have already offered. Its pricey and you wont see that many of them so who cares. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/15 "2009-01-13T13:50:30Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > So sort of like the Audi S-line trim? Yep. But at least the S-line looks different than an S. And says S-line. ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/16 "2009-01-13T13:55:58Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > Yep. > > But at least the S-line looks different than an S. > And says S-line. M-tech doesn’t look exactly the same as a real M and it doesn’t have an M3/5/6 badge on it the deck lid either (unless the owner is a true ricer). ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/17 "2009-01-13T14:19:32Z")
Well it looks pretty clear the X5 and X6 will be an M not just an appearance package. They are saying the X6 will have a V8TT: > **[The future of M: BMW X5, X6 and less](https://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/29/the-future-of-m-bmw-x5-x6-and-less/)** > > The CEO of BMW M GmbH, Ludwig Willisch, spilled his guts to Auto-Motor-und-Sport in a recent interview about the future of BMW's high-performance M division. The news was good, bad, and downright dumbfounding. For the good, Willish mentioned that... X6 M > **[Autoblog Sitemap](https://www.autoblog.com/site-map/?sid=1)** > > Find your way through Autoblog's comprehensive coverage of the U.S. and foreign auto industries by automaker, vehicle type and body style. X5 M > **[VIDEO: BMW drives the X5 M](https://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/22/video-bmw-drives-the-x5-m/)** > > Click above to view the teaser video of the BMW X5 M after the jump ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/18 "2009-01-13T14:21:33Z")
> [@mike125k](#): > > M-tech doesn’t look exactly the same as a real M and it doesn’t have an M3/5/6 badge on it the deck lid either (unless the owner is a true ricer). and? m-tech. I was referring to the packages offered overseas they are talking about bringing over. > In spite of this, Europeans have generally had an even easier time thanks to M-Sport packages on virtually every model in the lineup including those that didn’t offer M equivalents. The M-Sport packages generally consist of assorted aero bits, wheels, upgraded seats and interior bits emblazoned with the “M” badge. Read my posts. > [@BigRon](#): > > Well it looks pretty clear the X5 and X6 will be an M not just an appearance package. They are saying the X6 will have a V8TT: > > [The future of M: BMW X5, X6 and less - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/29/the-future-of-m-bmw-x5-x6-and-less/) > > X6 M > > [VIDEO: BMW gives sneak preview of new X6 M - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/05/video-bmw-gives-sneak-preview-of-new-x6-m?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_autoblog) > > X5 M > > [VIDEO: BMW drives the X5 M - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/22/video-bmw-drives-the-x5-m/) and that is badass. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/19 "2009-01-13T14:23:27Z")
I forgot to mention V8TT **AWD** ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-m7-and-m-everything-else-for-that-matter/61217/20 "2009-01-13T14:24:17Z")
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