# BMW + Toyota = "midsize sports car"

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**Created:** [January 27, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-toyota-midsize-sports-car/228416 "2013-01-27T15:28:20Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-toyota-midsize-sports-car/228416/1 "2013-01-27T15:28:20Z")

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It doesn’t have a name yet, probably announcing it now just to create a few years of media buzz:

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I am also guessing neither of these cars have anything to do with the final product:

> [@motortrend](#):
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> BMW and Toyota will collaborate on a midsize sports car, the automakers revealed today. As part of a larger long-term collaboration, the two automakers will jointly develop a midsize sports vehicle, fuel cell system, research lightweight technology, and even lithium-air batteries that are said to provide a much greater energy density than lithium-ion batteries.
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> With the new agreement, the automakers will work together to develop a fundamental fuel-cell vehicle system, including a fuel cell stack, hydrogen tank, motor and battery. The automakers hope to have the project completed by 2020, with a prototype as early as 2015. Also part of the plan, Toyota and BMW will attempt to streamline hydrogen refueling infrastructure codes and standards. Future Toyota and BMW hybrids may use a lithium-air battery – development of which is one element in the four-part collaborative effort.
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> The “mid-size sports vehicle” would be just the first to benefit from BMW-Toyota research into lightweight technologies for vehicle bodies, including reinforced composites. While the lightweight rear-drive Toyota GT86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ triplets were a joint project between Toyota and Subaru, some speculate that the new BMW-Toyota midsize sports car could yield a new Supra. Expect to see a concept giving us an idea of what to expect from the platform by the end of 2013.
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> For the sports car platform, Toyota will help by sharing its knowledge on environmentally friendly, hybrid, and fuel-cell technology while BMW likely contributing its expertise engineering “highly dynamic” vehicles.
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> The collaboration builds on previous agreements such as a December 2011 deal to work together on lithium-ion battery development for hybrid and PHEVs, which included a provision for BMW to supply Toyota 1.6-liter and 2.0-liter four-cylinder diesel engines for Euro-market cars beginning in 2014. As for the midsize sports vehicle, we’ll be seeing and hearing more on that enticing project before the end of this year.
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> Source: BMW

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-toyota-midsize-sports-car/228416/2 "2013-01-27T16:33:19Z")

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i like the idea of long-term collaborations between companies. It’s always better when they get along and work towards broad scale goals together.

the differences between the marques are largely choice-based and not patent or secret-sauce anyways. Toyota choses to make boring shit cars (FRS being a possible exception) and BMW etc. choses to make awesome shit.