# BMW unveils twin turbo V12!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 9, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904 "2009-04-09T13:15:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![larryr50](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/larryr50/32/5056_2.png) [@larryr50](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/larryr50)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/21 "2009-04-09T20:53:14Z")

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wow I am amazed every time i see a new car/motor come out from bmw or any european/german car company it is so awesome to see what they can do with such a small amount of displacement fuck 5.5 liter 550bhp! why cant we do this. Im embarrassed to have that 5.0 badge on the side of my car and barely make a quarter of that power lol.

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**Author:** ![larryr50](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/larryr50/32/5056_2.png) [@larryr50](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/larryr50)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/22 "2009-04-09T20:57:37Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> I wouldn’t say lame… but it is definitely not impressive 🙂

Id say its impressive i understand your point of 12cyl and 2 turbos but only 5.5 liters of displacement thats not that big to make 550hp. I mean come on 5.7 ls1 (I know i shouldnt go here but i will) 350hp ,4.6 3valve mustang motor only 325hp why arnt we making more with less?

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/23 "2009-04-09T21:06:38Z")

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> [@larryr50](#):
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> Id say its impressive i understand your point of 12cyl and 2 turbos but only 5.5 liters of displacement thats not that big to make 550hp. I mean come on 5.7 ls1 (I know i shouldnt go here but i will) 350hp ,4.6 3valve mustang motor only 325hp why arnt we making more with less?

You posted NA motors… not TWIN TURBO motors. Otherwise, I would agree.

My 3.0L Mitsubishi motor had 2 very small 9b turbos on it and it made 320hp from the factory… in 1992.  
Punch that out to 5.5L and you’re way ahead of this BMW for its time. (586hp). You’d be a hell of a lot faster too… in a 4000lb car… from 1992.

Even take, for example, the 2.0L ECOTEC in the Sky Redline. 260hp 260tq. Pump that up to 5.5L and you’re still ahead. (715hp 715tq)

03 Cobra motor with a shitty blower would make about 500hp @ 5.5L.

This is all ricer math though.

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**Author:** ![larryr50](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/larryr50/32/5056_2.png) [@larryr50](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/larryr50)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/24 "2009-04-09T21:10:49Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> You posted NA motors… not TWIN TURBO motors. Otherwise, I would agree.
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> My 3.0L Mitsubishi motor had 2 very small 9b turbos on it and it made 320hp from the factory… in 1992.
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> Punch that out to 5.5L and you’re way ahead of this BMW for its time. (586hp)
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> Even take, for example, the 2.0L ECOTEC in the Sky Redline. 260hp 260tq. Pump that up to 5.5L and you’re still ahead. (715hp 715tq)
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> 03 Cobra motor with a shitty blower would make about 500hp @ 5.5L.
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> This is all ricer math though.

I agree with you completely partly because i have a friend that has a ss turbo and my father has a 03 cobra and they all do have alot of potential. Im just saying i really admire what the germans do with their shit and the new m3 is na isnt it and it is only something like 4.5 liters and makes in the ball park of 455hp doesnt it ?

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/25 "2009-04-09T21:33:02Z")

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> [@larryr50](#):
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> Im just saying i really admire what the germans do with their shit and the new m3 is na isnt it and it is only something like 4.5 liters and makes in the ball park of 455hp doesnt it ?

This thread is about the TT V12 in the 7series… not the M3 motor. I think it is a 4.0L, 420hp. Sweet.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/26 "2009-04-10T06:19:41Z")

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It looks pretty but…

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/27 "2009-04-10T06:29:23Z")

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E30 swap?

X…

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/28 "2009-04-10T07:16:50Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> :picard:Yeah too bad it’s way above the price range of the 7 series by like 50k

I thought only the SL65 AMG Black edition is 670hp… IIRC 300K

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/29 "2009-04-10T07:20:06Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> I thought only the SL65 AMG Black edition is 670hp… IIRC 300K

I don’t know I just went to their website and looked for cars with a tt v12 and the cheapest one started at like 170k. Somehow I don’t think the 7 series will be nearly that expensive.

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**Author:** ![RENEGADE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RENEGADE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RENEGADE)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/30 "2009-04-10T07:22:57Z")

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Car looks great, but that engine looks sexy.:rolljerk:

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/31 "2009-04-10T07:24:49Z")

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Can I ask why people are saying the engine looks awesome… or are people just really fucking dumb

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**Author:** ![RENEGADE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RENEGADE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RENEGADE)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/32 "2009-04-10T07:26:18Z")

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The bare engine pic looks awesome thats all.

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**Author:** ![blk99z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@blk99z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk99z28)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/33 "2009-04-10T11:53:45Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> :picard:Yeah too bad it’s way above the price range of the 7 series by like 50k

Well, shit! If that’s the case, we shouldn’t compare the two very similar power plants to each other. In that case BMW \> \* /thread :picard:

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/34 "2009-04-10T11:58:32Z")

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lol, a twin turbo BMW V12 that makes barely more power than an NA GM V8. (LS7)

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**Author:** ![Treads4Heads](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/treads4heads/32/7416_2.png) [@Treads4Heads](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Treads4Heads)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/35 "2009-04-10T12:01:04Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> lol, a twin turbo BMW V12 that makes barely more power than an NA GM V8. (LS7)

Theres no replacement for displacement

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/36 "2009-04-10T12:59:54Z")

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> [@blk99z28](#):
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> Well, shit! If that’s the case, we shouldn’t compare the two very similar power plants to each other. In that case BMW \> \* /thread :picard:

:banghead: Great the mb makes 170 more hp and only costs you 50k MORE. Seems like a screaming deal to me…

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/37 "2009-04-10T13:16:47Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> lol, a twin turbo BMW V12 that makes barely more power than an NA GM V8. (LS7)

i’ll take the BMW.

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/38 "2009-04-10T13:42:56Z")

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> [@Treads4Heads](#):
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> Theres no replacement for displacement

brwap

I agree though. Could they not make ~500hp n/a? If this was an /M I can see the point in making an underpowered TT v12 because of the tuning potential. I don’t believe many 7 series will be modified and tuned, so it just seems like a waste to me.

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**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/39 "2009-04-10T14:02:47Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> I agree though. Could they not make ~500hp n/a?

One word. Torque.

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**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-unveils-twin-turbo-v12/65904/40 "2009-04-10T15:30:03Z")

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Doesn’t look safe, I bet you go through those clear plastic blocks like crazy.

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