# boosted3g's turbo 3g eclipse pics

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 26, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723 "2005-09-26T07:00:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/1 "2005-09-26T07:00:51Z")

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took some pics a few days ago when me and boosted3g were hangin out at hotrodkid’s house, cause they had no camera when they were doing the project, so im posting up for them.

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/focusinprogress/DSC01229.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/focusinprogress/DSC01229.jpg)  
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 ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/focusinprogress/DSC01223.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/focusinprogress/DSC01223.jpg)

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**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/2 "2005-09-26T07:02:46Z")

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not bad… glad to see its finished  
get those pipes powdercoated for some extra bling  
what was the dyno numbers?

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/3 "2005-09-26T07:07:40Z")

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the 14b = extreme lack of hp … dont wory about the numbers, lol

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/4 "2005-09-26T07:10:16Z")

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> [@HotRodKid](#):
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> the 14b = extreme lack of hp … dont wory about the numbers, lol

That’s why that turbo has gone low 11’s on no NO2 on a heavy DSM… :rolljerk:

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/5 "2005-09-26T07:12:21Z")

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they are having trouble with the a/f ratio so the numbers dont apply yet…i’ve riden in it, pulls nicely…just sounds funny lol

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/6 "2005-09-26T07:38:46Z")

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maybe its the large FMIC everyone warned you about…

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/7 "2005-09-26T07:48:48Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> maybe its the large FMIC everyone warned you about…

Yeah, that FMIC does look a bit large for a turbo that is efficiently cooled by a SMIC. Especially since you’re running fairly low boost I presume.

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**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/8 "2005-09-26T07:50:32Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> maybe its the large FMIC everyone warned you about…

but bigger=better:roll2:

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/9 "2005-09-26T08:01:11Z")

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this project was NEVER MENT TO HAVE A 14B ON IT

that IC was bought the same time as the 16G and after the 16g got damaged, if tom had had the money to buy a smaller IC to compliment the 14b we got ahold of, he would have used that money to replace the 16g !!

so instead of a 16g @ 11 psi, were using a 14b @ 9 psi - an thts a huge flow diffeence

i could have gotahold of a sidemount for cheap, but that would have required buying another 130 worth of piping to fit and cutting his drivers side wheel well to fit it in too … just for a temporary situation

the hp #'s are low, but theres plenty of area “under the curve”, especialy on the TQ side of things

and at the same time, from 3k-4k the car still wants to run 14.7, and only drops to 13:1 at wot

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/10 "2005-09-26T08:17:41Z")

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^ well put…the toque numbers were VERY good on Tom’s dyno sheet, just the hp was funky…16g + more boost = teh win

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/11 "2005-09-26T08:47:10Z")

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FP had to be jacked to 60psi under boost to keep the a/f below 14:1

an earlier run shows the a/f holding at 14.7 before quickly juming to 15 before it started to drop again

150hp @ 3400 rpm  
175hp still @ redline  
195hp someplace in between  
150tq @ 3200 rpm  
250tq by 4000 rpm  
 ![http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/afPSIfuel.bmp](http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/afPSIfuel.bmp)

![http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/hpTQ2.bmp](http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/hpTQ2.bmp)  
 ![http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/hpTQ3.bmp](http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/hpTQ3.bmp)

![http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/hpMPH.bmp](http://www.filefarmer.com/spadfarmer/4g64t/hpMPH.bmp)

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/12 "2005-09-26T09:04:05Z")

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You need some more fuel that is very lean for a daily driven turbo car

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/13 "2005-09-26T09:14:46Z")

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yes i know, we have to address that issue. the factory ecu is apparently damn good at adjusting

Injectors: 275 stock replaced w/ 440’s  
fuel pump 175 stock rplaced with walbro 255  
fuel pressure: 43 stock now @ 62.8

safc is +40 … and the cars still lean !

i want to get a second safc and use it to modify the stock 02 signal, 🙂

actualy, im going to use one of the wide bands analog outputs to trick the ecu into thinking that 12:1 is actualy 14.7

if the ecu doesnt see that its rich, it wont try to lean it out !

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/14 "2005-09-26T09:16:45Z")

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what were EGTs looking like?

EDIT : blah I answered/ you answered all my questions lol

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/15 "2005-09-26T09:19:39Z")

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its to lean because its at 14.7 after the cars under full boost, it should be at 12 any time its boosting

i donno about egts, i havent takenthe car WOT yet myself, and i wasnt there for dyno day

injectors are dsm blue tops from a 1g

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/16 "2005-09-26T09:21:15Z")

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Those injectors should nearing their limit at 200WHP

want bigger ones?

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/17 "2005-09-26T09:28:45Z")

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i could have sworn that that 440’s are good for 300-350 hp

and i know that there are guys running 3g’s w/ 16g’s, putting down 275 hp with lower fuel rail pressures , so we shouldnt be maxing them out yet

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/18 "2005-09-26T09:39:38Z")

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open loop dood

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/19 "2005-09-26T09:53:27Z")

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open loop isnt working that damn good anyways

closed loop is fucking us even harder by keeping it at 14.7 for at least 1000 rpm our of the rpm band, despide doubleing the injectors, 50% more fuel pressure and 40% more on the safc

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/20 "2005-09-26T10:12:12Z")

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good luck with the fuel, that is very lean. No more WOT till that gets fixed or it could go bye bye.

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