# boosted3g's turbo 3g eclipse pics **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 26, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723 "2005-09-26T07:00:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/21 "2005-09-26T10:21:39Z")
time to go with megasquirt ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/22 "2005-09-26T10:30:24Z")
yea, thats not gonna work with inspections and it would require a completely new ingition system also … because the stock coils will not work with aftermarket ignition controllers … the msd ignition system for example requires you to swap in new coil packs i also dont feel like swapping out almost all the sensors for megasquirt spec items or calibrating the megasquirt to work w/ the stock sensors either ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/23 "2005-09-26T10:33:02Z")
> [@HotRodKid](#): > > i could have sworn that that 440’s are good for 300-350 hp > > and i know that there are guys running 3g’s w/ 16g’s, putting down 275 hp with lower fuel rail pressures , so we shouldnt be maxing them out yet [http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm](http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm) scroll down for the calculator… You probably should have done some research before doing this project… Not the best thing to do with an NA block… 330 crank hp with a .65 BSFC @ 85% IDC is 660cc injectors. Those numbers a bit high so 550’s should be OK… ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/24 "2005-09-26T11:17:22Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Not the best thing to do with an NA block… uuum, its the 4g63 block,just with a taller deck height and extra cylinder head oil drains the entire stock longblock has taken 15 psi from a big 16gw/ stand alone tuning before a slip up on the map wasted the pistons the stock cam runs out @ 17 psi the crank takes just as much as the 4g63t crank the rods are just as stong as the 4g63t rods, all they did this time is leave out the oil squirters for the pistons so that takes care of the block … and if people can run stock 275’s with rising rate reg’s on turbo setups and get away with putting down 250hp, i think we can use 440’s w/ the fuel pressure bumped up a few pounds for now … im not saying its optimal, but its workable ---
**Author:** ![jrex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrex/32/7232_2.png) [@jrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrex)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/25 "2005-09-26T11:18:11Z")
I would also stay away from WOT until you get your fuel issues sorted out… ---
**Author:** ![Boosted3g](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Boosted3g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boosted3g)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/26 "2005-09-26T18:21:59Z")
Defenatly. If anyone see’s me driving it around, im like a slug. Im slower than i was NA cause im taking great care to keep it out of boost. I dont even let her see a pound. I’ think ive figured out the problem - theres TOO much fuel between the safc and ecu. what i mean by that is the safc settings are set so rich that the STFT anf LTFT’s are actually in the negative. How deep, i dunno yet i need a OBD2 datalogger. I’m working on that, but what’s happening is the ECU is leaning itself out to compensate. On the dyno- egts hit 1500 max…it richens up on top tho 12.8 AFR is still not making me happy. 12.0 would be perfect Also - research was done on this, for a long time. First, really, the FMIC is too big yea i know, but it will suit the future upgrades. The block and internals are proven time and time again to handle 15+ on a stock block. A.A.I (company) w\ AEM EMS and tuned a 17PSI on a very good tune. The problem is, the cam cant go much further. In comes RPW out of australia to help w\ that. NAPALM on [www.club3d.com](http://www.club3d.com) is running great on just an emanage, tho it took countless hours of tuning. Am i planning on that? No im only using an SAFC - Small steps - This summer was the start. More work is yet to be done. The FMIC will be fine once on 16g, larger injectors, 14-15PSI, RPW intake manifold, better plumbing (will defenatly be getting ahold of lee - saw what he did for juan’s teg and ron\91civichatchsi - very nice work 😃 ) The current injectors are fine and also have been proven that again. [www.neweclipse.org](http://www.neweclipse.org) and [www.club3g.com](http://www.club3g.com) for refrences. Others on 9 PSI are putting down 230-240 @ the wheels. And around the same torque. Once i get my tuning issues worked out, and a few exhust issues, I believe i’ll be around there too. I dont expect this to be a rocket, Hell i know its not. but its fun, and its different. A boosted 3g. Dosent have the potental of the 4g63 or the aftermarket, but its at least respectable for a stock block to be able to handle the power it can. my goal is 300 WHP \ TRQ - and again it is possible and has been done and the cars are still running w\o problems. Small steps guys 🙂 Okay im done w\ my rant, i really wanted to jsut state that this has been researched and has been proven, but i kinda kept goin on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/27 "2005-09-26T18:46:30Z")
:tup: :tup: ---
**Author:** ![longuyen88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/longuyen88/32/7611_2.png) [@longuyen88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/longuyen88)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/28 "2005-09-26T18:55:45Z")
glad to see it running. now i need to boost my car. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/29 "2005-09-26T19:10:50Z")
ot: i cant get my sig to the right size idont know how…chilax mods and help thx ---
**Author:** ![Boosted3g](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Boosted3g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boosted3g)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/30 "2005-09-26T19:12:05Z")
scrapper btw i got your PM - very cool mate 🙂 ill call ya on it - also, did you get my phone call from earlier today actually? ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/31 "2005-09-26T19:34:30Z")
Nice to see it finally running about time. Hurry up and get it tuned so I can get a ride before I leave. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Boosted3g](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Boosted3g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boosted3g)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/32 "2005-09-26T21:16:31Z")
wher ya goin man? I was gunna post this when i got it all 100% done but i figure now would be a good time. I wanna thank everyone who contributed to this, especally hotrodkid and fuzzyfish. Everything came together excellent, the welds nick made are perfecto and hold up fine, even tho there not cosmetically appealing 😉 haha they work great - and a big t-up for first time pie cuts. he helped install alot and guided w\ me through alot and explained some things i didnt understand. And fuzzy fish, he practically did ALL the electrical. all 5 gauges and the safc. Me + wires + Soder + safc2 + Ecu = broken car. Cant thank ya guys enough! Everyone who came down to pitch in too, thank ya guys alot - scrapper for the napa runs and some very good advice and refrence pointers. Nick\focus - thanks for snappin a few pics and hosting them up 😃 I learned alot from all of you guys, which to me was the most important part of this. For what it is comming out to be, I spent $1800-2grand total. That includes all SS lines, turbo, new gaskets all around,spec clutch, aeromotive FPR, gauges - egt, boost, oil temp, oil pressure, A\F,(autometer\vdo) wideband, rotors, fluids, misc nuts\bolts, bov, poping, fmic, couplers, band clamps, AN fittings, ect everything the whole shabang. I think thats very decent for the cost\power ratio - in terms of trq, thats $15 per Foot pound of TRQ, and with a wider exhaust and better tune, it’ll be even more efficent. Im sure theres people ive missed but i plan on doing a full write up once shes completely done and on the dyno again 😉 hopefully mike from inn-tune dosent hate me - there was an incidednt where i couldnt get my car down there on a scheduled day… ☹ so that being said 😉 whos got an OBD2 datalogger 😉 ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/33 "2005-09-28T00:29:21Z")
this engine is DEFINANTLY not fit for turbocharging :bloated: > [@xull1x](#): > > hate to break it to you ben, i beat a m3 by like 2 1/2 car lengths till the end of 4th… you will easily own them. i’m making 305/315 on the stock engine. i believe those cars are rated at 333bhp and weigh like 3400… while my car last time i weighed it at the junk metal place was 2830~ on a full tank of gas and me not in it. > > however, taking a m3 on the track is a whole different story. work on your suspension hardcore next. > [@xull1x](#): > > It’s nothing special to look at. I concentrated on performance really. > > the mod list follows: > > **Engine Management:** AEM EMS w/ gm air intake temp sensor, gm 3 bar map sensor > **Fuel Injectors:** Denso 660cc/min w/ DSM resistor pack > **Fuel Pressure Regulator:** Aeromotive AFPR (1:1 Boost referenced) > **Misc Fuel:** SS fuel hoses -6 AN, Earl’s in-line fuel filter > **Wastegate:** SSautochrome (hey it works great! w/ 11.7psi spring) > **Blow-off Valve:** JDM Greddy Type S (Black top) > **Intake:** K&N 3" filter > **Piping:** 2.5" Stainless Steel piping > **Intercooler:** Precision made 😉 > **Turbo:** Stage 3 .63 a/r t3 / Stage 1 .60 a/r t4 > **Misc Turbo:** SS oil feed line, -10 oil return line, Vibrant Silicone Couplers + T-bolt clamps, 2.5" Downpipe w/ Recirculated wastegate > **Header:** Turbonetics Cast Iron for 4g63 > **Brakes:** Upgraded to 2000 GT dual piston calipers w/ Hawk HP+ Pads & SS brake lines(BFgoodrich), Power Slot 00 GT rotors > **Suspension:** Kyb Agx w/ Eibach Sportlines, RRE Rear Strut bar > **Wheels & Tires:** 17" MSR 116s w/ 225/45/17 Falken Ziex 512s > **Gauges:** Faze A/F, EGT, and Boost and Redline Speedo/Tacho Gauges > **Show Stuff:** Tyc CF wannabe tail lights, front clear corners, some ricer antenna, Phoenix gold subs w/ some crappy amps and a crappy deck > > **LATEST PICS:** > black satin exhaust coating. > > engine bay (kinda dirty. gotta clean up the rust proofing shit) > > they coated my compressor black too ☹ i’ll have to take it off to polish her up again. or do you guys think it looks fine? > > * * * > > **old pics:** > painted the front grill black as a lot of peope suggested, and it looks stealthy > > new intake re-routing the air filter behind the fog light hole, definately a power increase felt. > [@xull1x](#): > > okay fuckers! i’ll tell you what im running. lol. (wasn’t following the thread)… whoever said it’s 14g, it’s a 14b. > > anyways my care has a > > a hybrid t3/t04e 50 trim… running 11-13psi of boost. i dynoed at 305whp and 315wtq. i’m running an aem ems standalone, and running 11.8:1 afr till 5000rpm and then 11.4:1 from there on till redline. injectors are denso 660s. > > i have enabled the anti-lag to test it out 😃 as for suspension, it’s completely stock. even the tires haha. waiting for the summer to come so i can put on my wheels… with 235/35 toyos or something else (maybe goodyear eagle f1s). [http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36060](http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36060) [http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47157](http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47157) [http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?p=883725&highlight=stock#post883725](http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?p=883725&highlight=stock#post883725) ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/34 "2005-09-28T01:35:48Z")
On the black eclipse… thats a horrible place to put the wastegate tap Congrats to you guys on doing something cool and different and not following all the sheep. The oversize FMIC will not hurt you and I would not worry about it a bit. As far as the ECU issues… increasing fuel pressure and doing all those patch fixes isnt the best idea when the stock ecu will cut pulse width to compensate for the rich condition. Remember if you change several factors at once it becomes very difficult to diagnose problems and isolate the original cause of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723/35 "2005-09-28T01:58:49Z")
about the black eclipses wastegate mount… yea WG’s go on the collector, EGT’s on the runner … but his mani came w/ the flange already there yea … i think going to far on the safc tripped the ecu into overreacting and going haywire… seriously cutting fuel flow apparently stft and ltft can do that … so we get to start over the injectors prolly have 1/4 of the pulse width they are supposed to have after we get ahold of a datalogger were going to poke around in the ecu and se whats up, then start over w/ the adjustments, possibly using the wideband analog out to lie about the a/f ratio to keep things stable while we richen it up the settings and id say that FMIC is having the same negative effect as the 16g exhaust housing on the 14b turbo is having … all the extra clearance on the turbo is making it spool like the wastegate is stuck open but you can see how fast it still build manifold boost when you drop the gas on the dyno graphs [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boosted3gs-turbo-3g-eclipse-pics/2723.md?page=1)