# Boston Marathon Explosions **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 15, 2013, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007 "2013-04-15T12:20:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/481 "2013-04-19T10:41:06Z")
"The witness interviewed last night said shootout, they threw a pressure cooker ied at officers and set it off, black hat charged the two dozen or so officers and was tackled, somewhere in there he allegedly detonated something on his body. white hat hops back in jacked suv, drives right through the officers, running over his brother in the process, and gets away. Attending doc said multiple gunshot wounds and blast injuries on black hat consistent with explosion." ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/482 "2013-04-19T10:42:33Z")
Just getting to read through this thread now. Jesus. I hope he’s brought to justice before doing anymore harm. And by justice I mean death, by hammer. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/483 "2013-04-19T10:46:00Z")
Now they are looking for a green Civic? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/484 "2013-04-19T11:05:16Z")
> [@juicedz4](#): > > Hopefully EVERYONE is thinking this right now, not just the people of Boston. It should be clear from this that sometimes the only one there to protect you, is yourself. > > Dan > [@JayS](#): > > ^ If that’s a hoax it’s insanely elaborate. I’m 99.9999% sure that’s a legit feed. > > I’ll go back to my point earlier. I bet there are a lot of people around Boston right now who were anti-gun last week that are sitting in their homes with all their doors locked hoping some crazy bomber doesn’t pick their house to hide in while rethinking their stance on citizens having the right to own high powered guns for home protection. If you can’t defend your home with a shotgun, as opposed to a high-powered assault rifle, you suck at life. If you’re the typical inexperienced shitty shot, it’s probably better since you can spray and pray, plus you don’t have to worry about taking out your neighbors through walls. I have my choice of dozens of guns and if I had to pick one for stopping power on an intruder to my home, I’d be packing my 10-gauge. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/485 "2013-04-19T11:09:33Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > If you can’t defend your home with a shotgun, as opposed to a high-powered assault rifle, you suck at life. If you’re the typical inexperienced shitty shot, it’s probably better since you can spray and pray, plus you don’t have to worry about taking out your neighbors through walls. > > I have my choice of dozens of guns and if I had to pick one for stopping power on an intruder to my home, I’d be packing my 10-gauge. I wasnt trying to say that an AR is the best choice, or even a good one, just that lots of these people think that ALL guns are bad, and hopefully that will change based on this event. Dan ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/486 "2013-04-19T11:09:41Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > If you can’t defend your home with a shotgun, as opposed to a high-powered assault rifle, you suck at life. If you’re the typical inexperienced shitty shot, it’s probably better since you can spray and pray, plus you don’t have to worry about taking out your neighbors through walls. > > I have my choice of dozens of guns and if I had to pick one for stopping power on an intruder to my home, I’d be packing my 10-gauge. A shotgun is more likely to blast into your neighbors wall than an AR. And spray and pray is not good!!! ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/487 "2013-04-19T11:12:46Z")
Apparently they were trying to use cell phone pings to track suspect. Phone hasn’t been active in days. ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/488 "2013-04-19T11:12:53Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > A shotgun is more likely to blast into your neighbors wall than an AR. And spray and pray is not good!!! I sincerely doubt buckshot has nearly the penetrating power of 5.56 nato. Having shot plenty of things in my life, plus the fact that they try to produce frangible 5.56 rounds to combat this exact problem; leads to me believe this. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/489 "2013-04-19T11:14:48Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > A shotgun is more likely to blast into your neighbors wall than an AR. And spray and pray is not good!!! A shotgun sprays your wall and all the shit sticks in there. If you’re in a crappy apartment with thin walls maybe they have something to worry about but the house next door is fine. Of the 10 rifle rounds you unload (7 in NY? :tif: ) it only takes 1 to go through your wall and kill your neighbor. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/490 "2013-04-19T11:15:34Z")
i have a feeling that he killed himself and is not going to be found for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/491 "2013-04-19T11:17:10Z")
> [@sobo](#): > > I sincerely doubt buckshot has nearly the penetrating power of 5.56 nato. > > Having shot plenty of things in my life, plus the fact that they try to produce frangible 5.56 rounds to combat this exact problem; leads to me believe this. [http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com\_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=26](http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=26) Summary **The 55 grain HP .223 has less penetration than any of the other ammunition tested. Based on the results of this testing, there appears to be no basis for concern regarding the over penetration of the .223 [HP] round. In fact, it seems even safer in this regard than .40 S&W handgun ammunition.** The hollow point cavity in the .40S&W round filled with material when shot through the wall. This caused [these bullets] to fail to expand when they entered the gelatin. As a result, they penetrated 8.5" farther than when shot directly into the gelatin. When the .223 [HP] was shot through he wall it began to fragment and as a result penetrated the gelatin only 5.5". Because the .223 [HP] begins to break up on impact, it has less potential for damage or injury than the 12 ga. in the event of a ricochet. The .223 [HP] is obviously safer in an urban environment than the 12 ga. with slugs or buckshot. Additional testing conducted proved that the .223 would penetrate a car door or glass. The .223 rounds fired into windshields began to break up after entering the glass and did not retain much energy. In most cases these rounds split in two. And here - [http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot14.htm](http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot14.htm) ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/492 "2013-04-19T11:20:07Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > [http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com\_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=26](http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=26) > > Summary > **The 55 grain HP .223 has less penetration than any of the other ammunition tested. Based on the results of this testing, there appears to be no basis for concern regarding the over penetration of the .223 [HP] round. In fact, it seems even safer in this regard than .40 S&W handgun ammunition.** > > The hollow point cavity in the .40S&W round filled with material when shot through the wall. This caused [these bullets] to fail to expand when they entered the gelatin. As a result, they penetrated 8.5" farther than when shot directly into the gelatin. > > When the .223 [HP] was shot through he wall it began to fragment and as a result penetrated the gelatin only 5.5". > > Because the .223 [HP] begins to break up on impact, it has less potential for damage or injury than the 12 ga. in the event of a ricochet. The .223 [HP] is obviously safer in an urban environment than the 12 ga. with slugs or buckshot. > > Additional testing conducted proved that the .223 would penetrate a car door or glass. The .223 rounds fired into windshields began to break up after entering the glass and did not retain much energy. In most cases these rounds split in two. Hollow points :rolleyes: Who uses those? ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/493 "2013-04-19T11:20:25Z")
Lol. Fox just interviewed his friend. We used to smoke pot and listen to rap music ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/494 "2013-04-19T11:21:24Z")
Thanks LZ, I was looking for a good reference to back up my claim. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/495 "2013-04-19T11:21:32Z")
Sobo said buckshot and that test used a 12 ga. slug. I would doubt that shot especially 10ga as Joe referenced would penetrate the same as a .223 round ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/496 "2013-04-19T11:22:42Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Sobo said buckshot and that test used a 12 ga. slug. > > I would doubt that shot especially 10ga as Joe referenced would penetrate the same as a .223 round Yea my bad… however the other link I posted should cover the buckshot Basically it comes down to both of them go through a bunch of shit :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/497 "2013-04-19T11:24:55Z")
Aunt is on Fox now. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/498 "2013-04-19T11:26:33Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Yea my bad… > > however the other link I posted should cover the buckshot > > Basically it comes down to both of them go through a bunch of shit :lol: Sounds like we should do some of our own real world testing this summer. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/499 "2013-04-19T11:27:17Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Sounds like we should do some of our own real world testing this summer. 🙂 I just got 500rds of 00 buck and a bunch of 5.56 :tup: I wouldn’t make the call on over penetrating between the two… It’s easier to hit a moving target with a shotgun and its got more stopping power then the AR AR is easier to shoot, holds more ammo, low recoil, etc ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007/500 "2013-04-19T11:32:21Z")
I have been driving all day today. Downloaded the UStream app and played the scanner. Really interesting to hear what is happening and then to check back with CNN, Fox, etc… and see that they are so far behind the 8 ball on this stuff. CNN is reporting that the suspect may be driving around in the green Honda Civic, however I overheard on the scanner that they called out that plate and one of the officers stated that car was right in front of him unoccupied. They even ran a Vin # to double check it. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007.md?page=24) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-marathon-explosions/230007.md?page=26)