# Bow down bish.... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 9, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909 "2009-04-09T15:22:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/41 "2009-04-11T06:58:39Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Ok maybe I’m not the one being clear. I understand poking fun at the president. And for 8 years there was a lot to make fun of, and there was certainly a lot to criticize him for. > > But the arguments made in this thread is not that it was stupid or funny but that it hurt the nation and I’m not saying you agree with that but for the people who do they are idiots. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/42 "2009-04-11T09:55:07Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > Jeg, :picard: . I cannot fathom how many times you were dropped on your head when you were a child. > > I bow to my sparring partner, who bows to me, and then I proceed to kick the shit out of him. > > It’s a fucking sign of respect you fucking douchebag. Seriously. > > It’s not like he got his ass kicked and is bowing out. in martial arts, bowing before an opponent is a sign of respect. Different situation completely. I don’t think they were about to throw down for sport. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/43 "2009-04-11T09:57:01Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > I always thought that bowing to a king meant you were be submissive but, I am only going by thousands of years of history. > > The important point here is that Obama is a liar even with cameras just like Hillary dodging bullets. :gotme: evidently not. Thats how its always been. > [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > If you had any education about the Arabic and other Eastern/Middle Eastern cultures you find the hilarity in the hand that he is holding. I did catch that. In their culture you use the left hand to wipe your ass. Hence why it is insulting to shake hands with the left hand. Bowing to show respect, but maintaining eye contact is one thing. Lowering your head to such an extent and not keeping eye contact is a sign of submissivness. > [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Ok maybe I’m not the one being clear. I understand poking fun at the president. And for 8 years there was a lot to make fun of, and there was certainly a lot to criticize him for. > > But the arguments made in this thread is not that it was stupid or funny but that it hurt the nation and I’m not saying you agree with that but for the people who do they are idiots. I didnt say it makes the county weak. I said it makes out us LOOK weak. The point is he should conduct himself as the representative of the most powerful country on earth. Hence, bow to nobody. I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but when one bows, one signifies the superiority of the one bowed to. It is a gesture of submission. The leader of the most free nation in the world should not be slobbering on the ring of some king! ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/44 "2009-04-11T10:02:26Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > If you had any education about the Arabic and other Eastern/Middle Eastern cultures you find the hilarity in the hand that he is holding. I did catch that. In their culture you use the left hand to wipe your ass. Hence why it is insulting to shake hands with the left hand. Bowing to show respect, but maintaining eye contact is one thing. Lowering your head to such an extent and not keeping eye contact is a sign of submissivness. ---
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/45 "2009-04-11T13:21:21Z")
_"I said it makes out us LOOK weak"_ How’s it feel to be siding with someone like jeg, Blue Eyed Devil? Does it make you feel smart? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/46 "2009-04-11T16:14:03Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I didnt say it makes the county weak. I said it makes out us LOOK weak. The point is he should conduct himself as the representative of the most powerful country on earth. Hence, bow to nobody. I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but when one bows, one signifies the superiority of the one bowed to. It is a gesture of submission. The leader of the most free nation in the world should not be slobbering on the ring of some king! lol dude he’s president of the United States, not king of the world. When he’s in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi king IS superior. I’m not saying he should have dropped to his knees and kissed the King’s feet, but showing respect to your host in his house is a nice change from the attitude that made it seem like a good idea to enforce a UN resolution by ourselves without UN approval if you know what I mean. Do you know what I’m talking about? And like I said before, he’s not just some King. He’s a king that supplies our industry with its fuel. Like JayS said, if we really wanted to show how much we need him as our ally Obama would have dropped his pants, bent over, and lubed up. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/47 "2009-04-11T16:33:31Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I didnt say it makes the county weak. I said it makes out us LOOK weak. The point is he should conduct himself as the representative of the most powerful country on earth. Hence, bow to nobody. I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but when one bows, one signifies the superiority of the one bowed to. It is a gesture of submission. The leader of the most free nation in the world should not be slobbering on the ring of some king! :word: Obama’s king of the world! The Saudi King should bow to him in Saudi Arabia! Nice to see that you’re finally an Obama worshippper with the rest of us. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/48 "2009-04-11T17:01:06Z")
OBAMA SUX AND IS THE DEVIL AND EVERYONE SHUD HATE HIM BC OF EVERYTHING HE DOES11!1 /thread ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/49 "2009-04-11T17:24:56Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I didnt say it makes the county weak. **I said it makes out us LOOK weak**. > Look weak to who? Saudi Arabia? The Middle East? Does the rest of the world now believe we are weak? > > The point is he should conduct himself as the representative of the most powerful country on earth. **Hence, bow to nobody**. I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but when one bows, one signifies the superiority of the one bowed to. **It is a gesture of submission**. The leader of the most free nation in the world should not be slobbering on the ring of some king! Its a gesture of respect to the head of state who we are fucking visiting! “Respect for other nations… something the Republicans don’t seem to understand” ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/50 "2009-04-11T21:23:50Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Its a gesture of respect to the head of state who we are fucking visiting! > > “Respect for other nations… something the Republicans don’t seem to understand” you are so fucking closed minded on issues that you dont agree with. It’s actually quite sad. I fully understand the aspect of bowing out of respect. But people in positions such as the president, or say a king, or an Emperor…they DO NOT BOW TO ANYBODY! It is social misconduct. There are instances where bowing is a form a respect. But he is bowing like a groveling servant. Show me pics of past presidents bowing to another leader this way. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/51 "2009-04-12T01:57:56Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > you are so fucking closed minded on issues that you dont agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/52 "2009-04-12T06:46:44Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > But he is bowing like a groveling servant. you can’t honestly believe that. i’m not a big obama guy by any stretch of the imagination, but the people that are making a big deal out of this are fucking retarded. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/53 "2009-04-12T07:37:00Z")
> [@Joe](#): > no, because while many times I disagree with you, I can at least understand where you are coming from in your arguments. That does not mean I have to agree though. You on the other hand are like a broken record. anything a democrat does you worship no matter what. anything a republican does you taunt and bitch about. You’re the definition of a blind follower. Hell I am a republican but at least I can admit to supporting some liberal ideas. You really need to think outside the box. I completely understand that he was bowing out of respect for the Saudi king. Showing respect is fine. I just dont like the fact that he just broke 200 years of the presidential code of conduct and lowered his head like a slave to his master (no pun intended). ---
**Author:** ![skillionaire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skillionaire/32/3139_2.png) [@skillionaire](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skillionaire)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/54 "2009-04-12T07:40:36Z")
SO at least we can agree that there is no such thing as a good U.S. president… or politician… ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/55 "2009-04-12T07:44:04Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > Hell I am a republican but at least I can admit to supporting some liberal ideas. Excuse me whilst I ![http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq228/Ionesque/lol.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/9/49543eba1c7049308df4f09ac960edafd255aaa6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/56 "2009-04-12T12:26:33Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > you are so fucking closed minded on issues that you dont agree with. It’s actually quite sad. I fully understand the aspect of bowing out of respect. But people in positions such as the president, or say a king, or an Emperor…they DO NOT BOW TO ANYBODY! It is social misconduct. There are instances where bowing is a form a respect. But he is bowing like a groveling servant. Show me pics of past presidents bowing to another leader this way. Closed minded? This whole argument from the right shows how closed minded you all are. “He broke a 200 year tradition! That bastard just sold out America! Burn him!” That my friend is closed minded. Starting to show some respect to other nations (even if it is Saudi Arabia) is open minded. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/57 "2009-04-12T13:58:48Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Closed minded? This whole argument from the right shows how closed minded you all are. “He broke a 200 year tradition! That bastard just sold out America! Burn him!” > > That my friend is closed minded. > > Starting to show some respect to other nations (even if it is Saudi Arabia) is open minded. While I completely understand where you are coming from. It does not defer from the fact that it is against formal conduct to do what he did. in ancient times if a leader or emperor or what have you were to bow to someone, they would have been seen as weak and submissive. Cultures have changed over the years yes, but the basic principals are still the same. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/58 "2009-04-12T15:10:03Z")
In ancient times if you were to take a shit in someone’s house, you’d be seen as disrespectful and disgusting. Cultures have changed over the years yes, and the toilet was invented, but the basic principals are still the same. They should be shitting outside. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909/59 "2009-04-12T15:13:07Z")
> [@Bacon](#): > > Excuse me whilst I > ![http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq228/Ionesque/lol.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/9/49543eba1c7049308df4f09ac960edafd255aaa6.gif) Social welfare programs… :poke: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bow-down-bish/65909.md?page=2)