# Breaking into a garage in 6 seconds? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 11, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932 "2013-04-11T15:08:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/1 "2013-04-11T15:08:31Z")
[https://youtu.be/CMz1tXBVT1s](https://youtu.be/CMz1tXBVT1s) [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/2 "2013-04-11T15:16:54Z")
I wish this stuff would get deleted from youtube so people can’t learn how to do it as easily. There have been SO many break-ins lately. Fine upstanding citizens from buffalo got into the galleria (with 24/7 security and cameras) a few weeks ago and ripped off a t-mobile kiosk. Only reason they got caught is because someone was doing floorsets on the overnight at gap or AE or somewhere and saw them. At work (near ecmc, cameras, people in an out constantly 24/7), someone came out and found their car on cinder blocks. All on video…took them just a few minutes. Stuff like this should make people more aware that you shouldn’t leave anything valuable in a garage. Nothing is remotely safe unless its in your house protected by guns. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/3 "2013-04-11T15:17:44Z")
Don’t have windows in your garage door, don’t use conventional opener, use a jackshaft style. Profit. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/4 "2013-04-11T15:25:11Z")
Let my wife sleep in your garage. Put her up against a raging pitbull any day. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/5 "2013-04-11T15:26:10Z")
> [@stuiephoto](#): > > I wish this stuff would get deleted from youtube so people can’t learn how to do it as easily. There have been SO many break-ins lately. Fine upstanding citizens from buffalo got into the galleria (with 24/7 security and cameras) a few weeks ago and ripped off a t-mobile kiosk. Only reason they got caught is because someone was doing floorsets on the overnight at gap or AE or somewhere and saw them. At work (near ecmc, cameras, people in an out constantly 24/7), someone came out and found their car on cinder blocks. All on video…took them just a few minutes. > > Stuff like this should make people more aware that you shouldn’t leave anything valuable in a garage. Nothing is remotely safe unless its in your house protected by guns. lol what? Keeping it off youtube doesn’t make it any safer Getting the issue known gets things fixed For example > **[Fix for hotels' electronic door lock hack slow to roll out](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/fix-for-hotels-electronic-door-lock-hack-slow-to-roll-out/)** > > Manufacturer now says it will cover most costs to replace all 4 million locks. > **[Leading Managed Detection and Response | Trustwave](https://www.trustwave.com/en-us/)** > > Trustwave is a leading cybersecurity and managed security services provider focused on managed detection and response. Had this not gotten the news coverage the company would have never been forced to push a fix ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/6 "2013-04-11T15:32:54Z")
I thought garages with quick releases had a hole to slide a locking pin through? edit: I thought when i clicked on this link it would be someone driving through a garage door ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/7 "2013-04-12T09:45:04Z")
I think I read something about that in a handyman mag. You can put a board up to prevent this. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/8 "2013-04-12T09:47:48Z")
[https://youtu.be/GjQutRLjeo0](https://youtu.be/GjQutRLjeo0) [https://youtu.be/WAkJRpKeyYg](https://youtu.be/WAkJRpKeyYg) [https://youtu.be/sKRJbGNoGQU](https://youtu.be/sKRJbGNoGQU) [https://youtu.be/sR-h64WwfW8](https://youtu.be/sR-h64WwfW8) ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/9 "2013-04-12T10:00:31Z")
> [@stuiephoto](#): > > I wish this stuff would get deleted from youtube so people can’t learn how to do it as easily. There have been SO many break-ins lately. Fine upstanding citizens from buffalo got into the galleria (with 24/7 security and cameras) a few weeks ago and ripped off a t-mobile kiosk. Only reason they got caught is because someone was doing floorsets on the overnight at gap or AE or somewhere and saw them. At work (near ecmc, cameras, people in an out constantly 24/7), someone came out and found their car on cinder blocks. All on video…took them just a few minutes. > > Stuff like this should make people more aware that you shouldn’t leave anything valuable in a garage. Nothing is remotely safe unless its in your house protected by guns. LOL. Locks are easy to pick and easier to drill. and guns…yeah…ok. Maybe if you hire some trained professionals. ---
**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/10 "2013-04-12T10:04:56Z")
Picking locks is fun as long as you have the proper tools. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/11 "2013-04-12T10:07:25Z")
> [@GV1390](#): > > Picking locks is fun as long as you have the proper tools. what what ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/12 "2013-04-12T11:47:52Z")
yea i dont think these DIY are really going to push someone over the edge to commit a crime… ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/13 "2013-04-12T13:22:51Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Keeping it off youtube doesn’t make it any safer > > Getting the issue known gets things fixed This isn’t internet security. You say that getting the issue publicized gets it fixed, and yet 3 posts later you post youtube vids of the most common door locks on the planet being broken into easily and clearly have no fix and are still sold and installed on a daily basis. Why bother even having locks. Hell, why bother having doors. All of the delinquents that come to the suburbs from the city are armed with hand drills and lock picks anyways. Every time a product like a door lock is found to have a vulnerability, they send a mailing to all of the owners and a man in a geeksquad beetle replaces them free of charge. Its not that diys on youtube cause people to commit crimes who ordinarily wouldnt. Uneducated people just go to your car and see if the door is unlocked to steal the gps and change. Youtube allows people who commit crimes to do it easier and more efficiently. If any of you think there’s not some fine church going boy in buffalo that watched a youtube video on how to break into something in 10 seconds and said to themselves “aww sheeit we gots to do dat!”, you’re absolutely delusional. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/14 "2013-04-12T13:30:10Z")
> [@stuiephoto](#): > > This isn’t internet security. You say that getting the issue publicized gets it fixed, and yet 3 posts later you post youtube vids of the most common door locks on the planet being broken into easily and clearly have no fix and are still sold and installed on a daily basis. > > Why bother even having locks. Hell, why bother having doors. All of the delinquents that come to the suburbs from the city are armed with hand drills and lock picks anyways. Every time a product like a door lock is found to have a vulnerability, they send a mailing to all of the owners and a man in a geeksquad beetle replaces them free of charge. > > Its not that diys on youtube cause people to commit crimes who ordinarily wouldnt. Uneducated people just go to your car and see if the door is unlocked to steal the gps and change. Youtube allows people who commit crimes to do it easier and more efficiently. If any of you think there’s not some fine church going boy in buffalo that watched a youtube video on how to break into something in 10 seconds and said to themselves “aww sheeit we gots to do dat!”, you’re absolutely delusional. So I do security consulting for a living both physical and information security. You realize people who break into homes don’t go around picking locks? Even bumping locks is extremely rare. Why? Because people leave doors unlocked Because people leave windows open Because glass is simple and easy to break There are a number of consumer/commercial locks that are extremely hard to pick which don’t cost that much more money. The entire concept of security is based around what you’re trying to protect and what you’re trying to protect it from. If you look at buildings that were designed with security in mind they have limited ingress/egress points and no first story windows. Take a hour and watch this video its entertaining. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/a/3a9cc22218dcac0835cfa1bacd281cb4bfd13126.webp "The Four Types of Locks") ](https://vimeo.com/31179906) People who have a predisposition to commit crimes are going to do so regardless. A random youtube video isn’t going to push someone over the edge. ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/15 "2013-04-12T13:47:07Z")
^agreed the handful of break-in or break-in attempts i have experienced at my properties have all utilized brute force or a miniscule amount of ingenuity. most people looking to steal something don’t really care one way or another if it is clean and quiet. as long as there isn’t someone directly witnessing their actions you can pretty much go just about anywhere and kick in a cheap exterior door or break a window and no one will think twice about the noise. unless there is a strong incentive to keep the break in unnoticed for as long as possible i don’t really see the point in attempting to pick a lock if you are breaking into a residential property with the intent to steal something. the main way you are going to get caught in any case is someone seeing you at the property, not recognizing you and alerting the authorities. that said, your best defense in all cases is a security system and cameras. both act passively as deterrents and actively once an attempt is made. everything else is just different shades of ease of ingress. ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/16 "2013-04-12T13:52:08Z")
LZ, that entire post wasn’t directed towards you FYI. I know what you do for a living. A lot of it was directed towards the other posts. I agree with a lot of what you have said-- a ton of threat could be EASILY mitigated by a homeowner who really took the time to assess their property, which almost no one does. We both agree that criminals take the easiest target (as we both said, unlocked doors). Its one of those things where “oh, it will never happen to me” until it does. In this case, the average homeowner who knew they had this garage door with this vulnerability probably isn’t going to get it fixed. I listen to the police all night and people don’t realize how much shit gets broken into on a nightly basis. They don’t put this stuff on the news because they don’t want people freaking out. There was a pretty good (failed) attempt on airport plaza jewelers the other night that did not make the news-- lets just say someone has been watching too many “oceans #” movies. A good security system saved their asses. I dont know why people keep saying “youtube isnt pushing people over the edge to commit crimes”. No one has even suggested this. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/17 "2013-04-12T14:18:15Z")
I have shitty locks on my doors…Feel free to bump my door locks 🙂 I also have dogs, guns, and an alarm system :lol: ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/breaking-into-a-garage-in-6-seconds/229932/18 "2013-04-12T16:07:12Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > So I do security consulting for a living both physical and information security. > > You realize people who break into homes don’t go around picking locks? Even bumping locks is extremely rare. > > Why? > > Because people leave doors unlocked > Because people leave windows open > Because glass is simple and easy to break > > There are a number of consumer/commercial locks that are extremely hard to pick which don’t cost that much more money. > > The entire concept of security is based around what you’re trying to protect and what you’re trying to protect it from. > > If you look at buildings that were designed with security in mind they have limited ingress/egress points and no first story windows. > > Take a hour and watch this video its entertaining. > > [The Four Types of Locks on Vimeo](https://vimeo.com/31179906) > > People who have a predisposition to commit crimes are going to do so regardless. A random youtube video isn’t going to push someone over the edge. that was a really interesting video. One thing I have learned from social engineering through my actual job as a DirectTV installer is that my bulshit badge with my picture on it will get me almost anywhere in every building I have ever had to work in. I was actually there to preform my job installing TV service but most people I am in contact with have no idea what I am doing or where I need to be in large office or manufacturing buildings. The only place I have ever encountered any “real” level of security was a drug manufacturing plant (they made sams branded pharmacy stuff) down south. I had a security guard with my for 6 hours that would not leave my line of sight.