# Bringing down the house **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 5, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900 "2010-01-05T17:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/21 "2010-01-08T05:40:56Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:16,topic:77900"”] This vid says it’s 2700 lbs. > **[HoweAndHoweTechnologies -](https://howeandhowetechnologies.com)** It also says it fits inside an elevator. Can elevators handle 2700lb? Also, What is the point of an armored transport vehicle to transport one person with minimal storage space? I can see the operators getting killed while trying to get out and fight. Edit: How many law enforcement agencies on the planet would send one person into a “hot” situation in ANY armored vehicle? Cool, yes. Useful and or safe… hell no. But, it would be fun to get around the mall in. [/quote] I think the purpose of this vehicle is to breach the structure with hostiles that the SWAT/military are trying to enter. This way “unarmored” personnel aren’t the first target down the enemies sights. I’m willing to bet that the vehicle breaches the structure, causing one hell of a commotion/confusion and either backs out to let the entry team in or stay and acts as a form of mobile cover. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/22 "2010-01-08T05:45:15Z")
no matter its design intent… it is “ALL THAT IS MAN!” ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/23 "2010-01-08T05:50:06Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > no matter its design intent… it is “ALL THAT IS MAN!” Agreed :bigtup: ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/24 "2010-01-08T06:12:10Z")
> [@08GT500](#): > > I think the purpose of this vehicle is to breach the structure with hostiles that the SWAT/military are trying to enter. This way “unarmored” personnel aren’t the first target down the enemies sights. > > I’m willing to bet that the vehicle breaches the structure, causing one hell of a commotion/confusion and either backs out to let the entry team in or stay and acts as a form of mobile cover. The structure that was breached looked like a mobile home, not a house or let alone a real building. I could be wrong. If LEO’s would used it to gain entry and clear a path, shouldn’t it be large enough to provide some cover from enemy fire? ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/25 "2010-01-08T07:11:54Z")
These things are awesome but do not stand up do the killdozer! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/26 "2010-01-08T07:31:42Z")
^ I remember the killdozer guy, quite a few years ago. The cops were helpless and he destroyed a bunch of buildings and cars with the thing before it broke down. Alright maybe it wouldn’t be to easy to push over but it’s still an impractical design imo…When these things are mass produced or even batch produced I’ll eat my words. When someone gets hurt in one you can all lick my sack. Until then they should probably finish drawing the plans for the thing. I guess I just wasn’t very impressed with the show, or their whole operation. edit: vid of the killdozer [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n77GgRtrw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n77GgRtrw) . Another all that is MAN… ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/27 "2010-01-08T07:33:49Z")
Killdozer is def pretty BA ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/28 "2010-01-08T08:12:24Z")
Imagine how pissed the cops would have been if the killdozer was remote controlled from an i-phone. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/29 "2010-01-08T08:20:41Z")
I watched it and thought it was terrible. How do they survive as a business? Seems like some kind of operation ran by a redneck who hit the lotto. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/30 "2010-01-08T18:22:06Z")
> [@glitch](#): > > I watched it and thought it was terrible. How do they survive as a business? Seems like some kind of operation ran by a redneck who hit the lotto. WAT?! Sure this little tank isn’t the greatest thing but the ripsaw kicks ass ---
**Author:** ![Hass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/51bf81/32.png) [@Hass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hass)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/31 "2010-01-08T19:05:04Z")
lol, michael bay is considering making a movie based on the killdozer? haha. I’d see it just to see how realistic the welding is… tbh. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/32 "2010-01-08T21:30:43Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:24,topic:77900"”] The structure that was breached looked like a mobile home, not a house or let alone a real building. I could be wrong. If LEO’s would used it to gain entry and clear a path, shouldn’t it be large enough to provide some cover from enemy fire? [/quote] It could be bigger. Who knows why they designed it to be that small. Maybe to be a world first? ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/33 "2010-01-08T21:36:13Z")
> [@08GT500](#): > > It could be bigger. Who knows why they designed it to be that small. Maybe to be a world first? They stated the main design concept was to be able to fit into the width of a standard door way. ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/34 "2010-01-09T10:18:16Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > I don’t think the SWAT team usually deals with criminals that own 50 cals or rpgs. lol The way the show made it sound was this was more for law enforcement use here than military. I think the tank was designed the way it was to utilize angles to reduce impacts from bullets by redirecting the force away from itself. > > I can see many practical uses for this. First off, why not send a guy into a hot spot with a bullet proof tank. You start rampaging around with that thing and people are gonna go running out. lol At 2700 lbs being a hunk of steel, your definitly not gonna tip this thing as was said. The only reason you can get cars to almost flip is threw utilizing its own weight through the suspension to bouch. With no suspension, you gotta basically dead lift this thing. > > Think about it, barge in with this thing equiped with some gas grenades and your set. No ones shooting a rpg at you unless they have a death wish themselves. They even taped a frag grenade to the side and it was survivalable. This is a good piece equipment for war, not for law enforcement. This thing is a horrible idea and would not be used for most law enforcement situations IMO. There are far more situations where using this over a swat team would be nothing but failure. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/35 "2010-01-10T09:02:14Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > WAT?! Sure this little tank isn’t the greatest thing but the ripsaw kicks ass They are nothing but amusing big boy toys with no true place in law enforcment. It’s just a repackaged version of “Monster Garage”, “Motor City Motors” and “Junkyard Wars” IMO. Same shit, same lameness, different name. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/36 "2010-01-10T09:31:25Z")
What happens if the bad guys are hiding out on the second floor?? Oh yeah that’s right, everyone has an elevator with a 2700 lb lifting capacity!! ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/37 "2010-01-10T09:54:02Z")
In most stand-offs the hardest part is gaining entry without casualties once in close quarters most trained professionals can take control of situations. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/38 "2010-01-10T10:09:15Z")
![http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/2008/12/killdozer.jpg](http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/2008/12/killdozer.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900/39 "2010-01-10T11:38:05Z")
I was thinking the same thing about using gas. Say you had some crazy whack jobs barricaded inside a building threatening to kill whoever tries to enter. If you have something that is resistant to conventional small arms fire, and moderate riffle fire, this thing would be perfect for infiltration. You catch the suspects off guard. If you have some sort of gas/stun grenade attachment on it, you could get in, immobilize the suspects without any loss of life, and quickly take control of the situation. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bringing-down-the-house/77900.md?page=1)