# Buffalo 2nd Best City To Relocate to w/ Buffalo Pro and Con & Citv vs. Burb Position!

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**Created:** [November 30, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519 "2012-11-30T10:30:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/1 "2012-11-30T10:30:20Z")

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Despite all the negative threads about Buffalo. It seems we were ranked #2 to relocate to. Hmm.

> **[Best Cities to Relocate to in America](http://www.cnbc.com/2010/10/26/Best-Cities-to-Relocate-to-in-America.html?slide=10)**
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> Bert Sperling of Best Places.net crunched the numbers to find the 10 best cities to relocate to today. Check out the list!

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/2 "2012-11-30T10:36:03Z")

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that whole list is super weird…

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/3 "2012-11-30T10:36:14Z")

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Nice to read some good press for once re. this town…personally, I love it here…

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/4 "2012-11-30T10:38:47Z")

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^Same. I think generally the people are great, food is great, and the cost of living is relatively low…It’s not perfect but I like it.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/5 "2012-11-30T10:39:48Z")

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I would argue that if you lived in Cali or somewhere else and owned a 400-500k house you can buy something similar here for 200’s

However taxes would rape you over time

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> [@ProgRocker](#):
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> ^Same. I think generally the people are great, food is great, and the cost of living is relatively low…It’s not perfect but I like it.

What cost of living is cheap in NY?

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/6 "2012-11-30T10:48:32Z")

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housing?!

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/7 "2012-11-30T10:51:19Z")

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Good people, good food, no career opportunity?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/8 "2012-11-30T10:56:48Z")

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> [@ProgRocker](#):
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> housing?!

Depends how you look at it?

Buy 150k house here pay 5k in taxes

Buy 300k house somewhere else and pay 3-4k in taxes

I spent sometime in Omaha this year and having been to most of those places its a really good balance.

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**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/9 "2012-11-30T11:00:04Z")

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I’m looking at properties in Ohio right now, and loving the property taxes. I’d much rather pay more for a house and less for taxes.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/10 "2012-11-30T11:02:11Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> What cost of living is cheap in NY?

not sure if srs.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/11 "2012-11-30T11:07:50Z")

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> [@superfan99](#):
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> not sure if srs.

Compare owning a home here to somewhere else…

Property/school taxes

Health insurance

Heating costs

Gas prices

Food prices

etc

I like living in Buffalo but low cost of living is myth.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/12 "2012-11-30T11:19:23Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Compare owning a home here to somewhere else…
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> Property/school taxes
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> Health insurance
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> Heating costs
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> Gas prices
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> Food prices
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> **but low cost of living is myth.**

This. I mean, its not NYC level, but the taxes just rape us every year and we keep taking it. A friend of mine just bought a $200k house in amherst/snyder, over $8k in taxes each year. Another friend bought a $200k house in Raleigh, taxes are $1200/year.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/13 "2012-11-30T11:22:23Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Depends how you look at it?
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> Buy 150k house here pay 5k in taxes
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> Buy 300k house somewhere else and pay 3-4k in taxes
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> I spent sometime in Ohama this year and having been to most of those places its a really good balance.

Where is “Ohama”?

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/14 "2012-11-30T11:23:45Z")

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> [@1QIKZ](#):
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> Where is “Ohama”?

Seems to be spelled right currently :lol:

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/15 "2012-11-30T11:30:16Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Compare owning a home here to somewhere else…
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> Health insurance
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> Heating costs
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> Gas prices
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> Food prices
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> etc
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> I like living in Buffalo but low cost of living is myth.

Owning a home here is cheaper, rents are generally less expensive. Costs of general services seem to be cheaper too. At my current household income, I doubt that I’d own 2 homes if I still lived around Albany.

Granted, I’m comparing this to the Capital District, but where have you lived that those costs are so much less than here? Personally, I’ve found it to be quite a bit cheaper, and out of town friends and family seem to agree(from Maryland, Central Florida, California, etc).

Complain about taxes all you want, but I think you get what you pay for.

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> [@Geehee](#):
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> This. I mean, its not NYC level, but the taxes just rape us every year and we keep taking it. A friend of mine just bought a $200k house in amherst/snyder, over $8k in taxes each year. Another friend bought a $200k house in Raleigh, taxes are $1200/year.

I don’t think you can’t really compare the taxes in NC to NY. Most of it’s newer construction, and they don’t have nearly the same infrastructure maintenance and service costs down there.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/16 "2012-11-30T11:33:58Z")

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> [@superfan99](#):
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> Owning a home here is cheaper, rents are generally less expensive. Costs of general services seem to be cheaper too. At my current household income, I doubt that I’d own 2 homes if I still lived around Albany.
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> Granted, I’m comparing this to the Capital District, but where have you lived that those costs are so much less than here? Personally, I’ve found it to be quite a bit cheaper, and out of town friends and family seem to agree(from Maryland, Central Florida, California, etc).
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> Complain about taxes all you want, but I think you get what you pay for.
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When you compare Buffalo against California and Maryland/NoVA area and you’re not taking pay into perspective it skews everything.

I lived in VA for a while and average pay is much higher

> [@superfan99](#):
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> I don’t think you can’t really compare the taxes in NC to NY. Most of it’s newer construction, and they don’t have nearly the same infrastructure maintenance and service costs down there.

Who cares the reason behind why taxes are lower? At the end of the day its cheaper.

Property taxes in some parts of Texas are high but there is also no state income tax.

I travel a ton for work and the discussion about cost of living in Buffalo always comes up then we discuss average taxes and other costs and people change their mind quickly.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/17 "2012-11-30T11:43:54Z")

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> [@Jagermeister](#):
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> I’m looking at properties in Ohio right now, and loving the property taxes. I’d much rather pay more for a house and less for taxes.

Wait, really?! Tell me more on how this works. \<3

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At the end of the day, everywhere I’ve ever gone for work/play, I’d rather live here. Call me nuts, but the only downside of WNY is how gross 8/10 of the girls are.

I would maybe consider living in Texas, but I feel like I’d probably be the smartest guy in my neighborhood.

“No job/career opportunities”. Yeah, because the rest of the country is doing so well right now.

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I’ve been entertaining a lot of ladies as of recent and I can attest that out of the 2/10 non gross looking girls, .25/2 of them still have issues (I.E. - body hair). AKA Issues that would earn them a teeth kicking in a place other than Buffalo.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/18 "2012-11-30T11:50:27Z")

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> [@superfan99](#):
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> I don’t think you can’t really compare the taxes in NC to NY. Most of it’s newer construction, and they don’t have nearly the same infrastructure maintenance and service costs down there.

404 logic not found. join debate about cost of living in buffalo VS other areas and then say you cant compare NY to NC…

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/19 "2012-11-30T11:53:56Z")

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I remember someone was bitching at a conference about property taxes. I piped up that I paid $6000/year and they all assumed I lived in a $1,000,000 house lol

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/20 "2012-11-30T12:05:06Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> I’ve been entertaining a lot of ladies as of recent and I can attest that out of the 2/10 non gross looking girls, .25/2 of them still have issues (I.E. - body hair). AKA Issues that would earn them a teeth kicking in a place other than Buffalo.

LOL, all i can think about is Shallow Hal when that hottie had that horrible toe

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