# Buffalo 2nd Best City To Relocate to w/ Buffalo Pro and Con & Citv vs. Burb Position! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 30, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519 "2012-11-30T10:30:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/41 "2012-11-30T14:10:06Z")
Right, but equity isn’t a factor in cost of living. That’s another issue all together. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/42 "2012-11-30T14:15:35Z")
Mediocrity rules buffalo, just ask random people where a good place to eat is. It really blows my mind where people line up out the door to eat. ---
**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/43 "2012-11-30T14:32:47Z")
↑ Where is a good place to eat around here??? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/44 "2012-11-30T14:42:25Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > Right, but equity isn’t a factor in cost of living. That’s another issue all together. Whatever. If you are not getting equity it is costing you. Big picture. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/45 "2012-11-30T20:05:15Z")
Oh it’s THIS thread again. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/46 "2012-11-30T20:48:39Z")
> [@Jon](#): > > Mediocrity rules buffalo, just ask random people where a good place to eat is. It really blows my mind where people line up out the door to eat. Mediocrity in large quantities is the key. lol ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/47 "2012-11-30T23:22:26Z")
Fact: LZ loves to argue. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/48 "2012-12-01T06:29:12Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > man you really need to relocate your biz out of NY. You had me at deep dicking. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/49 "2012-12-01T09:23:33Z")
> [@08GT500](#): > > Fact: LZ loves to argue. And all the other people who agreed ---
**Author:** ![Hortanica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Hortanica](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hortanica)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/50 "2012-12-01T10:55:33Z")
:io: the fat kid in me keeps me in this area. ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/51 "2012-12-01T11:09:27Z")
> [@91MR2](#): > > …personally, I love it here… Agreed. I’ve lived a lot of places. California, Texas, Utah, Tennessee. Moved back in 04, and likely won’t leave until either my parents are gone, or I retire. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/52 "2012-12-01T11:15:56Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Here you are ladies: > > [http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/costofliving/costofliving.html](http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/costofliving/costofliving.html) Looks like everyone needs to move to Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/53 "2012-12-01T13:55:46Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > Pay has nothing to do with Cost of Living. That’s a completely different argument all together. Cost of living is higher in NoVa, so of course the average pay is going to be higher. > > I’ll say it again… taxes aren’t the only factor in CoL. > > I said you can’t compare taxes. It’s a single element of the total CoL. > > You know what you guys convinced me, I’m sure my limited anecdotal evidence, and the economists that actually determine the cost of living index are all wrong. Pay has “nothing to do with cost of living”? Are you fucking kidding me??? You compare Albany to Buffalo when people are talking primarily about out of state taxation? LOL. Just LOL. ---------- Post added at 04:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:52 PM ---------- > [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > I will pay over $400,000 in property taxes in the next 30 years on my house and will receive nothing in return at the end. If I purchased a more expensive home somewhere else and my monthly payment went towards equity instead of taxes I would be able to cash in after 30 years. Another thing is the lack of appreciation in WNY homes, that being said I guess you could say we were lucky when the bubble burst because it did not hit us so hard but bubbles are ultra rare. You and one other guy mentioned that in this thread…this is a crucial difference. Pay towards your personal equity or towards government bloat…hrmmm tough decision. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/54 "2012-12-01T17:18:00Z")
I’m a firm believer in: cities are what you make of them and who you know. I love Buffalo because at any moment, I can call someone up and do cool shit, because I know a lot of people… I live in Spokane now, there is a ton of stuff to do outdoors, but I don’t know a lot of people so I find myself doing things by myself. oh, and, I compared a $850k house in Orchard Park, which taxes were $41k a year, to a house in a comparative neighborhood in Spokane, the house was the same price, and taxes were $8k… so yeah, FUCK NY taxes… ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/55 "2012-12-01T18:52:17Z")
BED… can you please correct the spelling in your user title (RE: Wolrd) and then… > [@cougarspeed](#): > > Oh it’s THIS thread again. LOL ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/56 "2012-12-02T06:32:11Z")
> [@TradersBASE](#): > > Pay has “nothing to do with cost of living”? Are you fucking kidding me??? > You compare Albany to Buffalo when people are talking primarily about out of state taxation? > LOL. Just LOL. The initial comment was about cost of living. The majority of the tax comments came after. Your all pretty smart guys, but I just can’t believe something that a simple economic term like Cost of Living is so difficult to grasp. Your right, pay does have something to do with it, where wages are higher the cost of living is higher. [COLOR=“Silver”] ---------- Post added at 09:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 AM ---------- > [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > I will pay over $400,000 in property taxes in the next 30 years on my house and will receive nothing in return at the end. If I purchased a more expensive home somewhere else and my monthly payment went towards equity instead of taxes I would be able to cash in after 30 years. Another thing is the lack of appreciation in WNY homes, that being said I guess you could say we were lucky when the bubble burst because it did not hit us so hard but bubbles are ultra rare. So you live on a completely self sufficient compound that you never leave or any benefit of government spending? That’s pretty amazing. They don’t plow your road, maintain local infrastructure, no benefits of public safety or emergency services? You’re not deducting any of that against your federal taxes either? You can argue that there’s too much waste, but to say you get no return on it is just funny. Ultimately, you choose to pay that much in taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/57 "2012-12-02T07:44:37Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Oh it’s THIS thread again. LOL **[COLOR=“magenta”]HOLD MY DICK!**[/COLOR] ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/58 "2012-12-02T07:54:29Z")
All I wanted to know is what things are cheaper in this area. Thanks CNN If you move from Buffalo, NY to Raleigh, NC… Groceries will cost: 9% more Housing will cost: 27% less Utilities will cost: 4% less Transportation will cost: 6% less Healthcare will cost: 12% more ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/59 "2012-12-02T08:00:26Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > All I wanted to know is what things are cheaper in this area. > > Thanks CNN > > If you move from Buffalo, NY to Raleigh, NC… > Groceries will cost: 9% more > Housing will cost: 27% less > Utilities will cost: 4% less > Transportation will cost: 6% less > Healthcare will cost: 12% more Move from Buffalo to \, \ it’s like exactly the same. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/60 "2012-12-02T09:11:46Z")
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