# Buffalo 2nd Best City To Relocate to w/ Buffalo Pro and Con & Citv vs. Burb Position! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 30, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519 "2012-11-30T10:30:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/81 "2012-12-03T10:05:00Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > [http://coworkbuffalo.com/](http://coworkbuffalo.com/) Jesus Christ this website is horribly made, half of the pages have fucking black font and the background is dark blue WTF, but concept is cool ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/82 "2012-12-03T10:52:12Z")
Dear Superfan, Yes I do live in a completely self sufficient compound and yes it is amazing. You obviously don’t know me. 😉 Seriously though, I specifically said “in the end” and the payment(money) was not going toward equity. I never said, “I get nothin’ for my taxes”! My tax rants are for another thread though. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/83 "2012-12-03T19:20:57Z")
290/90/33 clusterfuck is the stupidest interchange. Why they made everyone merge left and then immediately merge right is beyond me. I actually go the back way and get on at Cleveland during rush hour, can fly right onto the 33 🙂 Also, bitch about Amherst all you want but there’s basically a highway to take you to and from wherever you need to go. Fuck city streets and red lights. I can get to Grand Island or Hamburg faster than I can get down Hertel in traffic. And those strip malls contain the places people need to get shit, unless you’re one of those fggts that buys everything at the Lexington Co-Op and antique stores :uhh: ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/84 "2012-12-03T20:00:06Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Also, bitch about Amherst all you want but there’s basically a highway to take you to and from wherever you need to go. Fuck city streets and red lights. I can get to Grand Island or Hamburg faster than I can get down Hertel in traffic. And those strip malls contain the places people need to get shit, unless you’re one of those fggts that buys everything at the Lexington Co-Op and antique stores :uhh: This!! ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/85 "2012-12-03T20:03:35Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > 290/90/33 clusterfuck is the stupidest interchange. Why they made everyone merge left and then immediately merge right is beyond me. I actually go the back way and get on at Cleveland during rush hour, can fly right onto the 33 🙂 > > Also, bitch about Amherst all you want but there’s basically a highway to take you to and from wherever you need to go. Fuck city streets and red lights. I can get to Grand Island or Hamburg faster than I can get down Hertel in traffic. And **those strip malls contain the places people need to get shit, unless you’re one of those fggts that buys everything at the Lexington Co-Op and antique stores** :uhh: I loled even though I am one of these fggts I literally leave city limits maybe once per month and try to buy anything I can locally owned and even locally made…PS I love my Subaru 🖕 Beer this weekend? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/86 "2012-12-03T21:26:16Z")
YES! ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/87 "2012-12-04T05:37:07Z")
fuck the co op, i got wegmans. and fuck ugly fucking strip malls. and fuck main street in the village. and fuck suburban soccer moms ---------- Post added at 08:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ---------- and fuck yes i want some beer ---------- Post added at 08:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ---------- and fuck yes i want some beer ---------- Post added at 08:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ---------- fuck it, im gonna leave that server fuck up in there cause beer is that awesome. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/88 "2012-12-04T06:53:33Z")
Beers Friday? Hllr at me boiieeeeee Also DASH’s + Co-Op and Sat Farmers Market at Bidwell FTW 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/89 "2012-12-04T06:57:08Z")
one thing about dash’s - i think they get wegmans rejects. holy hell the girls look awful. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/90 "2012-12-04T07:16:03Z")
If you complain about traffic in Buffalo you probably suck. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/91 "2012-12-04T07:26:49Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > If you complain about traffic in Buffalo you probably suck. someone has never tried to drive through williamsville down main st during the day or NFBLVD/transit on a weekend. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/92 "2012-12-04T07:26:54Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > one thing about dash’s - i think they get wegmans rejects. holy hell the girls look awful. FACT > [@Fry](#): > > If you complain about traffic in Buffalo you probably suck. FACT Geehee while that is annoying when I lived in Seattle 10mi was like 1hr in rush hr crossing the city. I used to call Joe and chat random BS on my retarded ass long siting in traffic session. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/93 "2012-12-04T07:28:33Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > someone has never tried to drive through williamsville down main st during the day or NFBLVD/transit on a weekend. Go spend a week in some other city lol ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/94 "2012-12-04T07:35:41Z")
hey i admitted we are pretty spoiled by the commute around here. my trips to chicago recently have shown me that. those areas just make me so aggravated. ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/95 "2012-12-04T08:12:48Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > If you complain about traffic in Buffalo you probably suck. Best post in this thread, yet… ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/96 "2012-12-04T08:17:07Z")
Buffalo is awesome. walking out my front door I can: look at world class architecture such as ![http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/jim1234664/por.png](http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/jim1234664/por.png) ![http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/jim1234664/jersey.png](http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/jim1234664/jersey.png) in less than 5 seconds be in a coffee shop in 20 seconds be in a corner store in 60 seconds be in a rite aid in 2 minutes be on allen street in 8 minutes be at lake erie in 10 minutes be on elmwood in 15 minutes be downtown in 20 minutes and thats all on foot. obviously times go down dramatically driving or even on a bike depending on where you chose to live in the city you can be even more mobile than the burbs. I can be on the 190, 33, or 198 within 5 minutes of pulling out of my garage. beats the hell out of living in Amherst 10 minutes away from the nearest 290 (or even worse 990) exit, especially if you have a 9-5 and need to deal with the 90/290 interchange multiple times a day at rush hour If I need big box retail I head to north Buffalo and can be there in 10 minutes maybe 15 if main streets are congested. as a bonus I also have low taxes and live in the fastest appreciating real estate market in Erie county. Wouldn’t have it any other way. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/97 "2012-12-04T08:40:29Z")
^^ have you traveled much? buffalo isn’t the only city with old buildings and places to walk/bike to. There is also a significant number of cities who are even more friendly to bikes and personal transportation than Buffalo. > [@LZ](#): > > The potential for lockport to bring in other datacenters is huge. > Cheap power for new businesses. > The new tech startup sector in Buffalo. > General Mills, Rich products, HSBC, First Niagara, Geico, Synacor. > Multiple shitty sports teams. > International airport that is never busy > Short flying time to Boston, NYC > Short drive to Toronto > Lots of green space > quality local restaurants(however the more I travel the more I realize all major cities also have this however they seem to lack in the suburbs in other places) > Williamsville has some of the best schools in the country How did that work out last time they tried to bring some big money data centers into Lockport and expand that area into a tech sector. > [@Joe](#): > > Also, bitch about Amherst all you want but there’s basically a highway to take you to and from wherever you need to go. Fuck city streets and red lights. I can get to Grand Island or Hamburg faster than I can get down Hertel in traffic. And those strip malls contain the places people need to get shit, unless you’re one of those fggts that buys everything at the Lexington Co-Op and antique stores :uhh: Lots of people love cutting through side roads. I love highways and rather drive an extra few miles on a highway to get somewhere than deal with red lights. > [@Geehee](#): > > someone has never tried to drive through williamsville down main st during the day or NFBLVD/transit on a weekend. Williamsville isn’t that bad. I used to live down by ECC north and would drive from the 190-\>290-\>Main Street and all the way through williamsville at 5:15. Took 25-30 minutes. I live in North Buffalo now and the drive down Colvin and Sheridan is almost as long. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/98 "2012-12-04T08:42:14Z")
The biggest issue with Buffalo is everything is spread out everywhere with no public transit ☹ ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/99 "2012-12-04T08:46:11Z")
We have an awesome subway system! ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519/100 "2012-12-04T08:53:09Z")
Can’t find a youtube video of this… But this sums it up pretty well [http://us.myspace.com/music/player?sid=45489631&ac=now](http://us.myspace.com/music/player?sid=45489631&ac=now) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-2nd-best-city-to-relocate-to-w-buffalo-pro-and-con-citv-vs-burb-position/227519.md?page=6)