# Buffalo haters step inside. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 17, 2007, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383 "2007-12-17T09:09:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/21 "2007-12-17T10:13:36Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > **forbes also said the avg salary of a business major from UB started at 29k iirc… which is off significantly…** > > I do subscribe to forbes though, and find it to be a good read for the most part… > > I also plan on moving south, but only because i hate snow and cold do you have data to prove this wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/22 "2007-12-17T10:17:52Z")
Las Vegas # 3 baby woooo. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/23 "2007-12-17T10:19:13Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > this thread is like bragging about your kid getting a C- on a test. what about all the cities that didnt make the list? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/24 "2007-12-17T10:32:05Z")
like what, Debuque Iowa? oh oh oh I know Waco TX, how about Plant City FL? you mean places that are not major cities? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/25 "2007-12-17T10:35:00Z")
what are all these alleged jobs? working in a factory or at a topps? ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/26 "2007-12-17T10:41:49Z")
It’s top 100, so every state gets the 2 on an average, I’m guessing as long as it doesn’t totally suck, you’re on the list. It’s like asking people how the water is, 90% of the time you get some negative answer, no matter where you live. I \<3 Buffalo. X… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/27 "2007-12-17T11:11:05Z")
For fun I went over to [buffaloniagarajobs.com](http://buffaloniagarajobs.com) and filled in just the salary search item for 50-75k in erie county and got 41 hits, all kinds of different jobs. Pretty good considering most places won’t even list salary. “.Net” (programming language for non-techs) gets 51 results. “chemist” gets 10 results (wife’s profession). Both the wife and I had to change jobs in the last 2 years and neither of us found the Buffalo job market all that bad. Her search was a little harder than mine but we both found jobs pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/28 "2007-12-17T11:13:21Z")
Buffalo is a good place to live. But it could be a great place to live. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/29 "2007-12-17T11:26:36Z")
Dallas, TX $65,000 minimum Salary 360 Jobs No surrounding Areas Buffalo, NY $50,000 minimum salary 38 Jobs Surrounding Areas :tup: to a wonderful market Taking from HotJobs ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/30 "2007-12-17T11:34:54Z")
^ Well, Dallas is 55 on the list. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/31 "2007-12-17T11:49:38Z")
that list really makes no sense though, think about it a drop of 24 spots is equal to almost 10x the amount of jobs? ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/32 "2007-12-17T12:02:28Z")
Yeah but how many more people are competing for those jobs in Dallas? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/33 "2007-12-17T12:11:19Z")
Dallas Population 1,188,580 Buffalo Population 262,648 4.5 times the people for 9.5 times the jobs… [www.areaconnect.com](http://www.areaconnect.com) ---
**Author:** ![BluBalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bluballs/32/7212_2.png) [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/34 "2007-12-17T12:13:48Z")
lol: #66 Boston-Quincy, MA Metropolitan Division 37 94 14 46 89 280 guess I’m not better off here :lol: :lol: edit: weird - 62 Cambridge-Newton-Framingham, MA… Cambridge touches Boston but it’s 4 spots higher. These numbers are messed up. Also LOL at Rochester @ #58 ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/35 "2007-12-17T12:16:34Z")
> [@SkunkApe](#): > > lol fggts > > i moved cause i hate snow > > but i hated living in FL… so it worked out nice yeah he only likes white stuff when its on his face ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/36 "2007-12-17T12:20:18Z")
Dallas suburbs homes average price per square foot: ~$100 > **[Best Dallas Suburbs | 2018 Best DFW Places to Live - Dave Downs](https://www.davedowns.com/best-dallas-suburbs.php)** > > Comprehensive, fact-based best Dallas suburbs/best DFW places to live analysis. Compares 116 Dallas area suburbs livability, local schools, home prices. Buffalo suburbs homes average price per square foot: ~$67 Say, $100,000 / 1500 sq-ft = $67/sq-ft? That’s figuring high. So as long as we’re arguing this crap, that extra $15k you make in Dallas will still land you a lower quality of life. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/37 "2007-12-17T12:23:00Z")
Not really, if you want to break it down to house prices we can do other things as well Gas is cheaper Utilities are cheaper No state income tax Fact that you do not have to drive more than 5 miles to get to any major Grocery/Box store Also what is shopping tax, we are at 6.25 for cars, 8.25 for other sales tax Buffalo is 8.75% also add into that a lower automotive insurance premium… [http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/bestplaces/compare\_tool.jsp?id=PL3611000%2C&view=a&stateSelect=43&citySelect=PL4819000&x=17&y=3](http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/bestplaces/compare_tool.jsp?id=PL3611000%2C&view=a&stateSelect=43&citySelect=PL4819000&x=17&y=3) plus larger job growth rate That $15k more you are making are not equaling a lower quality of life, but in reality more… ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/38 "2007-12-17T12:34:23Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > do you have data to prove this wrong? sure do… [http://mgt.buffalo.edu/CRC/2006\_BS\_Employment\_Stats.shtm](http://mgt.buffalo.edu/CRC/2006_BS_Employment_Stats.shtm) ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/39 "2007-12-17T13:03:13Z")
> [@66impalass](#): > > That $15k more you are making are not equaling a lower quality of life, but in reality more… :lol: From your own link: Median income Buffalo - $33k Median income Dallas - $45k Median home price Buffalo - $45k Median home price Dallas - $166k It doesn’t seem like 0.5% sales tax difference and $600 dollar auto insurance difference would make up for that. But we could argue different points forever, and we’d both make very valid arguments. The point of this thread wasn’t to “prove” anything, or even claim that Buffalo is a great place to live. I mean, yeah it is for some people. For other people it does suck. I am only pointing out that even a reasonably valid source says that Buffalo isn’t so bad. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/40 "2007-12-17T13:11:42Z")
you are missing the extra 6.85% of your income for state taxes that is also not taking into account size of house, for that price I am looking at about 2000 sqft with in the city limits. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383.md?page=3)