# Buffalo top 20 highest per capita GDP

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**Created:** [February 14, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493 "2012-02-14T10:10:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/1 "2012-02-14T10:10:30Z")

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[http://artvoice.com/issues/v11n6/week\_in\_review/brookings\_gdp\_report#.TzqbuU6sk7U.facebook](http://artvoice.com/issues/v11n6/week_in_review/brookings_gdp_report#.TzqbuU6sk7U.facebook)

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/2 "2012-02-14T10:22:34Z")

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that doesnt seam accurate. Theres no way buffalo is that high. hmmm

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**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/3 "2012-02-14T10:27:43Z")

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$52K is in the top 20, WTF??? Artvoice should stick to articles about the fucking preservation of grain elevators, our awesome waterfront development, and ads for tranny escorts. Fuck that shit newspaper.

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/4 "2012-02-14T10:30:29Z")

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here is a link to the full report: [http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/reports/2012/0118\_global\_metro\_monitor/0118\_global\_metro\_monitor.pdf](http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/reports/2012/0118_global_metro_monitor/0118_global_metro_monitor.pdf)

Rochester also checks in on page 17

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/5 "2012-02-14T10:31:17Z")

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LOL, you guys are idiots

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/6 "2012-02-14T11:32:04Z")

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Lets make this easier on everyone… I can’t believe this is correct though.

> Yes, you read that correctly. The report, “Global Metro Monitor, Volatility, Growth, and Recovery 2011,” released January 18, 2012 and authored by Emilia Istrate, Alan Berube, and Carey Anne Nadeau, identifies comparisons between economic output and employment of the world’s largest metropolitan communities. This is a fascinating report that also compares “developed, undeveloped, and developing” areas and economies from around the globe and disproportionate GDP versus personal income statistics.

> Key findings rom the report:

> ```
> An analysis of per capita GDP (income) and employment changes in the 2010 to 2011 period for 200 of the world’s largest metropolitan economies, which account for nearly one-half (48 percent) of global output but contain only 14 percent of world population and employment, reveals that:
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> ```
> -Ninety percent of the fastest-growing metropolitan economies among the 200 largest worldwide were located outside North America and Western Europe.
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> ```
> -By contrast, 95 percent of the slowest-growing metro economies were in the United States, Western Europe, and earthquake-damaged Japan.
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> ```

> ```
> -In nearly every global region, metro areas generated disproportionate shares of national increases in output and employment. Many US metro areas significantly outperformed the national average on income growth, while several others significantly underperformed on employment growth.
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> ```

> ```
> -Most of the best performing metro economies during the recession were from developing countries in Asia, and Latin America, while the bottom performers were almost all from the United States and Europe. However, 12 of the top 20 are U.S cities.
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> ```
> -In nearly every global region, metro areas generated disproportionate shares of national increases in output and employment. Many US metro areas significantly outperformed the national average on economic growth while several others significantly underperformed on employment growth.
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> ```

> Page 6 of the full report identifies metropolitan Buffalo as having the 19th-largest per-capita GDP in the world. Hartford, San Jose, Bridgeport, Washington, DC, Boston, San Francisco, New York, Seattle, Houston, and Des Moines are all on the list before Buffalo, which is ranked just above Los Angeles.

> GDP is defined as “the sum of the marker value of goods and services produced in an economy”; the Buffalo metropolitan economy is considered to include Erie and Niagara counties.

> According to the report, the region’s most successful sectors are business and finance, which contribute about 45 percent; education, healthcare, administrative services, and government, which contribute a little over 30 percent; and trade and tourism, which contribute about 15 percent. Construction, transportation, and utilities define the remaining output.

> According to the US Census Bureau, Buffalo is the third poorest city in the US with a population of over 250,000. Buffalo is the sixth most segregated city in the United States. The income per capita in Buffalo is 43.2 percent less than the New York average and 31.6 percent less than the national average. The median household income in Buffalo is 56.1 percent less than the New York average and 45.6 percent less than the national average. The median household income in Buffalo for owner-occupied housing is 127.4 percent greater than the median household income for renter-occupied housing in Buffalo.

> The poverty level in Buffalo is 200.9 percent greater than the New York average and 116.4 percent greater than the national average. The median earnings for males in Buffalo is 39 percent greater than the median earnings for females in Buffalo.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/7 "2012-02-14T12:30:17Z")

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There is no way this is just the city. They must have included some of the burbs. A lot of unemployed people have moved out of the area so our population is at all time lows and the people here typically are employed so that would move up our numbers compared to a NYC that has millions of people and such a span of incomes.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/8 "2012-02-14T13:03:01Z")

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I don’t feel like it’s that far off though, but what do I know.

x…

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/9 "2012-02-14T13:09:19Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> There is no way this is just the city. They must have included some of the burbs.

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> Buffalo metropolitan economy is considered to include Erie and Niagara counties.

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**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/10 "2012-02-14T13:16:53Z")

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Does anyone bother to RTA before commenting anymore?

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/11 "2012-02-14T13:40:26Z")

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> [@superfan99](#):
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> Does anyone bother to RTA before commenting anymore?

coming from someone lazy enough to abbreviate “read the article”

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/12 "2012-02-14T13:49:37Z")

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I know a lot of people who make a salary in that range. I think one of the things about the WNY region is that people don’t show it off often and tend to hoard their cash. Or just blow it at the bars etc.

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**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/13 "2012-02-14T14:09:35Z")

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FadetoBlack would have a fap attack if he saw this.

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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/14 "2012-02-14T14:44:42Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> I know a lot of people who make a salary in that range. I think one of the things about the WNY region is that people don’t show it off often and tend to hoard their cash. Or just blow it at the bars etc.

We have attracted/retained several call centers and interesting companies that pay fairly well for whatever reason (probably tax credits for big companies like Yahoo). From what I’ve seen I don’t think most save, I think the majority have tied themselves down to debt that they live paycheck to paycheck with whatever’s left over going to the bar or smoked up. I also am fairly sure that figure is skewed by some heavy hitters, we certainly have our fair share of slums and even debt _rich_ areas. Any set of statistics can be skewed horribly, in this case I suspect by a wealth disparity. The average income around here is most likely not in the mid $50’s I suspect.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/15 "2012-02-14T15:08:17Z")

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i call BS on this.

unless all the rat-shit-poor people were not counted in the headcount. I can see that having a massive impact on the result.

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**Author:** ![Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neon)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/16 "2012-02-14T17:03:31Z")

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Not in Becks so I don’t trust.

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**Author:** ![MrSmith](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrsmith/32/5254_2.png) [@MrSmith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrSmith)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/17 "2012-02-14T18:03:19Z")

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So they are looking at GDP in the two counties versus total population to come up with the income per capita number? If so I can see why we are ranked so high.

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**Author:** ![16vCorvette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b487fb/32.png) [@16vCorvette](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/16vCorvette)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/18 "2012-02-14T18:06:19Z")

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> [@MrSmith](#):
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> So they are looking at GDP in the two counties versus total population to come up with the income per capita number? If so I can see why we are ranked so high.

Agreed. I don’t think they are talking about average income

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**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/19 "2012-02-14T18:43:12Z")

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GDP really doesn’t have anything to do with wages, at least not in the sense you guys seem to be referring to it.

It’s GDP per capita, not GDI per capita.

> [@Minglor](#):
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> coming from someone lazy enough to abbreviate “read the article”

ZOMG! An abbreviation on a message board, and in a discussion about GDP no less! What was I thinking!

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-top-20-highest-per-capita-gdp/220493/20 "2012-02-14T21:19:05Z")

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Either many did not read the article or many do not know what GDP represents.

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