# Buffalo wants to ban stereo upgrades **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 13, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250 "2006-06-13T05:50:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/1 "2006-06-13T05:50:24Z")
[http://www.wben.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=05163](http://www.wben.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=05163) > The head of Buffalo’s Common Council is pushing for a law that would attempt to curb the ‘thumping’ noise of souped-up car stereos. President David Franczyk wants to ban the installation of such stereos as a ‘quality of life’ issue in the city. At first I though, “shit, another stupid law in NYS”, but then the more I thought about it the more I started to question where you could use a typical bass system without being abnoxious and annoying to everyone around you. Going 75 down the thruway maybe, but even then people do live along the thruway and bass caries a LOOONG distance. ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/2 "2006-06-13T05:57:00Z")
never… local car audio shops would go out of business ---
**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/3 "2006-06-13T05:57:43Z")
hahaha ya thats gunna happen, why dont they worry about the motorcycles loud ass pipes you can hear for miles at 3 in the morning instead ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/4 "2006-06-13T06:14:24Z")
Car audio ‘enthusiasts’ who do it properly are like the Car enthusiast who make nice cars fast. The assholes who do nothing but throw money @ the local shops because they “wanna be bangin” are the Ricers of the genre. Making a bad name for everyone. It’s the assholes that have ZERO regard for others (with regards to output levels) that cause problems. I used to be big into dBDrag and the competitive side of it (with the Termlab pressure sensor and all), but it got boring after a couple years. Even THEN I would dial it down for daily driving and stoplights and such. Not too mention that I’d spent ~$700 on sound deadening (to keep it in also keeps scores up). My last “loud” vehicle (last spring), I used 4 gallons of liquid deadening & close to 40lbs of matting. (I still have some left actually). You’d hardly feel my setup from 20’ OR MORE away. Even full tilt (registered & certified 158 dBs @ 42hz on the dash). That being said, the aforementioned law will have a shit-ton of loopholes and probably be enforced about as much as the tint / exhaust laws: only when an officer feels like it / cant find something else wrong. /soapbox ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/5 "2006-06-13T06:15:01Z")
oh, and “Loud Pipes save Lives” which I agree with, but still have problems with the legal aspect of it. But that is a completely seperate realm of the law, and is too off topic 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/6 "2006-06-13T06:21:09Z")
Yeah, I don’t necessarily agree with banning the installation, but I completely agree with cracking down on the assholes. Went over over to my wife’s cousin’s place in N.Buffalo for dinner a couple weeks ago, near Starin and St. Lawrence, and about every 20 minutes some jackass would drive by that you could hear his bass from several blocks away. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/7 "2006-06-13T06:24:51Z")
Lets keep this on point and not turn it into a loud pipes vs loud stereo debate. ---
**Author:** ![supry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@supry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/supry)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/8 "2006-06-13T06:25:27Z")
> [@1sik bmw](#): > > hahaha ya thats gunna happen, why dont they worry about the motorcycles loud ass pipes you can hear for miles at 3 in the morning instead I agree, I gotta listen to all these damn harleys at WOT all freakin day and night long. Imports with lound exhaust get tickets, now they are trying to pull over anyone with audio equipment, but they never go after the harleys, it really pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/9 "2006-06-13T06:28:32Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Lets keep this on point and not turn it into a loud pipes vs loud stereo debate. :word: > [@supry](#): > > I agree, I gotta listen to all these damn harleys at WOT all freakin day and night long. Imports with lound exhaust get tickets, now they are trying to pull over anyone with audio equipment, but they never go after the harleys, it really pisses me off. it really is a completely different argument though. /ot ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/10 "2006-06-13T06:30:07Z")
yea it’ll never pass, altho i do wish they would start enforcing the db laws more instead, that’d cut down on it ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/11 "2006-06-13T06:31:51Z")
I dont care for stereos soo much but I also do not agree with this…dont they have better things to worry about ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/12 "2006-06-13T06:33:59Z")
You really really really don’t want them to start cracking down on DB levels for aftermarket systems… That just opens the door for cops cracking down on every aspect of aftermarket for cars. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/13 "2006-06-13T06:35:19Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > …dont they have better things to worry about ![http://www.trinachow.com/blog/images/2005/02_05/msword.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/3/03a9b3fb638084472f1770e1796923b8c49f3ced.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/14 "2006-06-13T06:53:30Z")
Better things yes and no. Right now Buffalo is making a big push across the board, in both serious crimes (drugs etc) and nuisance stuff like this. This is just part of their “quality of life” campaign. I’m not concerned with opening the door to car mod bans either. There is already a law on the books in NYS that says any exhaust modification that makes the car louder than STOCK is illegal. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/15 "2006-06-13T06:54:55Z")
That y i love my amp kill switch ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/16 "2006-06-13T07:02:25Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Better things yes and no. Right now Buffalo is making a big push across the board, in both serious crimes (drugs etc) and nuisance stuff like this. This is just part of their “quality of life” campaign. > > I’m not concerned with opening the door to car mod bans either. There is already a law on the books in NYS that says any exhaust modification that makes the car louder than STOCK is illegal. It starts the cop enforcing laws already on the books…look at Cali. Ride height, They check for CARB numbers, Tires, Aftermarket headlights, Loud exhaust, Loud radios… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/17 "2006-06-13T07:06:27Z")
> [@FormulaLS1](#): > > It starts the cop enforcing laws already on the books…look at Cali. > > Ride height, They check for CARB numbers, Tires, Aftermarket headlights, Loud exhaust, Loud radios… when is the last time You saw / heard of someone getting stopped for ride height? I know one person to ever have had a ticket for clearance and that was a severly slammed mini truck that drove on barely filled bags. Police SHOULD enforce violations such as CARB, tire safety, headlights and even exhaust. The options to keep a car legal are there. If You dont wanna spend Your money on them, You accept the likelyhood of being fined for it. Do they? Will they? Not anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/18 "2006-06-13T07:13:07Z")
What im saying is…If they start enforcing laws like this…it opens a door for them to start cracking down on everything else… THIS IS A CAR PERFORMANCE BOARD ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/19 "2006-06-13T07:16:14Z")
i got a noise ordanace ticket about a week ago ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/20 "2006-06-13T07:16:22Z")
How long have You lived in Buffalo? This comes around EVERY SPRING/SUMMER time for the last 15 (or so) years. Whats been done about it so far? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250.md?page=2)