# Buh-Bye SAAB... Or Not? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 18, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363 "2009-12-18T07:09:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/1 "2009-12-18T07:09:47Z")
Koenigsegg didn’t want 'em. Spyker didn’t want 'em. China will take this: _“State-owned BAIC will acquire the technology for Saab’s 9-3 and 9-5 car models, turbine engines and gearboxes, allowing the Chinese firm to develop its own-brand cars using the Swedish carmaker’s technology.”_ > **[GM to shut down Saab, talks with Spyker fail](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gm-saab/gm-to-shut-down-saab-talks-with-spyker-fail-idUSTRE5BH2SZ20091218)** > > General Motors Co said it would begin shutting down its money-losing Saab brand after last-ditch talks to sell it to a small Dutch sports car builder collapsed on Friday. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091218/ts\_afp/uscompanyautogmswedensaab\_20091218143140](http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091218/ts_afp/uscompanyautogmswedensaab_20091218143140) ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/2 "2009-12-18T07:16:55Z")
I’m all for the Chinese starting to respect intellectual property and copyrights etc. but I wonder why they’re actually paying for this rather than reverse engineering/stealing it like they usually do. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/3 "2009-12-18T07:17:56Z")
Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/4 "2009-12-18T07:27:14Z")
Wasn’t SAAB already using Subaru engines? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/5 "2009-12-18T07:30:01Z")
> [@Onyx Z32"](#): > > “State-owned BAIC will acquire the technology for Saab’s 9-3 and 9-5 car models, turbine engines and gearboxes, allowing the Chinese firm to develop its own-brand cars using the Swedish carmaker’s technology.” They are selling the old 9-5 and old 9-3 technology not the current stuff ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/6 "2009-12-18T07:34:02Z")
> [@OfficerK](#): > > Wasn’t SAAB already using Subaru engines? In the old 9-2 9-7 was a trailblazer The new 9-5 was based off the new Buick Regal/Lacrosse 9-3 is based on a platform similar to G6 and Malibu 9-4X was going to be a SRX ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/7 "2009-12-18T07:43:40Z")
First Saab produced was in 1947. 60+ year company… poof. What will eccentric writers and grown up hippies drive now? ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/8 "2009-12-18T07:45:38Z")
More Subarus and VWs. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/9 "2009-12-18T07:47:15Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > … What will eccentric writers and grown up hippies drive now? Volvo ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/10 "2009-12-18T07:57:31Z")
> [@Onyx Z32"](#): > > Spyker didn’t want 'em. The way I read it was GM thought it would take to long so they bailed > _“Despite the best efforts of all involved, it has become very clear that the due diligence required to complete this complex transaction could not be executed in a reasonable time. In order to maintain operations, Saab needed a quick resolution,” said GM Europe President Nick Reilly. "We regret that we were not able to complete this transaction with Spyker Cars._ ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/11 "2009-12-18T07:59:52Z")
I thought I read another article stating that buy selling this old shit to them, that they could stay afloat and continue business. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/12 "2009-12-18T08:05:41Z")
I wish they had killed them around 1995 before they started putting out crap. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/13 "2009-12-18T08:08:00Z")
Saabaru’s are hot: ![http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7140/saabaru.jpg](http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7140/saabaru.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/14 "2009-12-18T08:21:47Z")
I still miss mine as a DD, 30+ MPG and fun/comfortable to drive ![http://www.ronoversiii.com/9-3/rims/sideview%20(Small).jpg](http://www.ronoversiii.com/9-3/rims/sideview%20(Small).jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/15 "2009-12-18T08:46:45Z")
Hopefully SAAB will open all of the tolerances on their prints before they sell them. BWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHH! ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/16 "2009-12-18T08:58:48Z")
> [@Inn-Tune](#): > > I’m all for the Chinese starting to respect intellectual property and copyrights etc. but I wonder why they’re actually paying for this rather than reverse engineering/stealing it like they usually do. Probably the turbine engine technology used in the Saab fighters. ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/17 "2009-12-18T09:02:52Z")
> [@Inn-Tune](#): > > I’m all for the Chinese starting to respect intellectual property and copyrights etc. but I wonder why they’re actually paying for this rather than reverse engineering/stealing it like they usually do. Maybe because they finally realize they suck! ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/18 "2009-12-18T09:57:06Z")
good ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/19 "2009-12-18T12:11:28Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > I wish they had killed them around 1995 before they started putting out crap. GM bought them in 89, with the first “GM” Saab being the 900NG in 94 (based on a Opel) ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/20 "2009-12-18T14:03:07Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Hopefully SAAB will open all of the tolerances on their prints before they sell them. > BWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHH! “Default the drawing’s title blocks to state three decimal places as, uh, ±.090, convert to Mandarin, and raster all the vector.” ![http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/lingerie_dr_evil_surgery.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/2/f223105f7b5b90bd2f3c278ef53548712645b359.jpeg) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363.md?page=2)