# Buh-Bye SAAB... Or Not? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 18, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363 "2009-12-18T07:09:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/21 "2009-12-18T14:05:32Z")
Seriously though, that sucks. The GM versions were hit-or-miss but as a whole it was one of those car companies that just marched to the beat of it’s own drummer. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![GTRGurl](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gtrgurl/32/5347_2.png) [@GTRGurl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTRGurl)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/22 "2009-12-20T11:17:31Z")
Looks like Spyker made a new offer and is trying to work something out… [http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/20/autos/saab\_gm\_spyker\_offer/index.htm](http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/20/autos/saab_gm_spyker_offer/index.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/23 "2010-01-09T09:12:07Z")
More on this saga: _“A Swedish government delegation will head to Detroit on Saturday on a last-ditch mission to persuade General Motors to keep Saab Automobile alive after the US group announced the start of liquidation proceedings at its Swedish unit.”_ [http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b1ffd044-fc84-11de-bc51-00144feab49a.html?nclick\_check=1](http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b1ffd044-fc84-11de-bc51-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1) ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/24 "2010-01-09T09:52:26Z")
The board of Saab has voted today to liquidate the company. Simultaneously, General Motors has announced that it has hired AlixPartners to supervise the “orderly wind-down” of the marque. GM continues to evaluate bids for Saab, presumably those from Spyker Cars and Genii Capital/Bernie Ecclestone > **[BREAKING: Saab board reportedly votes to liquidate company, but GM still...](https://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/08/breaking-saab-board-reportedly-votes-to-liquidate-company-but/)** > > According to a press release quoted in Dow Jones Newswires, Stefan Lofven, head of Swedish trade union IF Metall, the board of Saab has voted today to liquidate the company. Simultaneously, General Motors has announced that it has hired AlixPartners... ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/25 "2010-01-09T13:18:08Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > Probably the turbine engine technology used in the Saab fighters. Saab motors and Saab jet are two separate companies. ---
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/26 "2010-01-09T13:26:05Z")
When we first thought Koenigsegg was buying them I had a dream of a DD that’s a mix between the Saabaru wagon and the CCXR. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/27 "2010-01-26T11:25:29Z")
Time for a title change > **[BREAKING: GM reaches agreement to sell Saab to Spyker!](https://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/26/breaking-gm-reaches-agreement-to-saab-to-spyker/)** > > What a long, strange trip it's been. Every thriller must have an endgame, although whether the guy gets the girl in the end or just plain "gets it" is often in doubt right until the final frame. This afternoon, after a most improbable and tortured... GM reaches agreement to sell Saab to Spyker Still contingent on a EU loan, but looks like they have a new home and GM still retains some ownership ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/28 "2010-01-26T11:27:27Z")
:tup: Saw that this morning…Good to see them live on ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/29 "2010-01-26T11:56:06Z")
Well we’ve yet to see their plans to make the company viable. SAAB only sold 21,000 cars world wide last year and 7,812 cars in the US. That’s a 61% sales drop in just the US. Maybe if they somehow try to brand them as more of an ‘exclusive’ car, raise prices and work with a much lower volume… But we’ll just have to wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/30 "2010-01-26T12:36:34Z")
Well if they launch the new 9-5 which is a solid mid size car and the 9-4x on the popular platform that the SRX is on, that would dramaticlly increase sales. From a Trailblazer badged as a 9-7x and a mid sized platform that has seen minimal changes since 1997 ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/31 "2010-01-26T12:38:31Z")
![http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Saab_9-5_Aero_Turbo_XWD.JPG/800px-Saab_9-5_Aero_Turbo_XWD.JPG](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Saab_9-5_Aero_Turbo_XWD.JPG/800px-Saab_9-5_Aero_Turbo_XWD.JPG) ![http://www.nordicdesignblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/saab-bio-power-concept.jpg](http://www.nordicdesignblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/saab-bio-power-concept.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/32 "2010-01-26T13:27:51Z")
They’re still just re-badged vehicles from other GM makes / platforms which obviously hasn’t been working for them. If Spyker buys them, then makes the exact same cars that have been bleeding market share for years, how are they going to do any better than GM did? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363/33 "2010-01-26T14:16:47Z")
I think it is due to the weak previous platforms not the methodology. But at the same time, if you don’t update something for 10+ years, it is not going to sell well, it has nothing to do with platforms. Your methodology states that the Lexus ES300 should not be successful because it is a rebadged shared platform vehicle. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buh-bye-saab-or-not/77363.md?page=1)