# Build a track car for cheap? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 25, 2007, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259 "2007-04-25T09:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/41 "2007-04-26T04:46:14Z")
exactly :tup: and if you don’t care if you’re placing then why’s it matter what class you’re in? You’ll have a hard time finding an A Stock car that fits all the “cheap” guidelines. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/42 "2007-04-26T05:21:52Z")
Going in on a car with a friend is rarely a good idea. I would just keep rocking out the S2k and concentrate on learning to drive well rather than building a prepped car. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/43 "2007-04-26T05:29:30Z")
soloIIscoob, haha when you told me that I was like =O i cant believe your dad is cool with it…cool dad i guess its not just hitting curbs that scares me, its stuff like cone damage, wear and tear on the car, a noob behind the wheel losing control, etc. I know reason 3 can happen anywhere and reason 2 will happen over time. I would just like to keep her safe. That would be sweet to find a busted up S and just track that But my friend and I have always loved the 240’s. Ive been friends with the kid for 10yrs so i know sharing a car wont be a problem…plus he’s got dollars=) makes triple what i make. haha are the 1st gen MR2s cheap? true, i guess it wont matter what class were in since were just going for fun. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/44 "2007-04-26T05:34:26Z")
[quote=“rushman,post:40,topic:28259"”] …snip… [/quote] Totally agree with Rushman here. I’ve been a WNY Safety Steward for the last couple years and WNY puts on VERY safe events. When the courses are setup and “pre-run” a lot of thought is put into where cars are likely to spin to make sure they “spin away”. Aka, spin out away from hard objects. Once the event starts the safety guys watch the first run group to get an idea if there are any issues that may not have been seen when the course was setup. Many times we’ve adjusted courses after the first run group because we’ll spot something that doesn’t look safe. Another thing to consider… even in the very rare crashes, it’s not the novices that crash. Look at the two guys that had issues at ECC-N. You’ve got “that guy” (edited to remove the name), who’s a multiple track day guy, and Mike P in the mini who’s trophied at nationals. I can remember one other ECC-N curb incident, and it involved a 400+ HP DSM that often set FTD (Fastest Time of the Day). The experienced drivers are the ones who may push a little too far, or try to recover something they shouldn’t. “If you spin, both feet in”. That will save you in 99% of autocross spins. When the spin starts slam on the clutch, slam on the brakes, and hang on to the wheel. It’s when you spin and start trying to recover with throttle that you get in big trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/45 "2007-04-26T05:37:20Z")
This is about Auto-X? Yeah, just keep the S2k for it. It’s very low risk. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/46 "2007-04-26T06:09:47Z")
[quote=“rugsr,post:43,topic:28259"”] Ive been friends with the kid for 10yrs so i know sharing a car wont be a problem…plus he’s got dollars=) makes triple what i make. haha [/quote] Think he might get sick of being the cash cow after a while? Just saying that most people end up having issues when “sharing” something like a car. Especially if everything isn’t going to be 50/50. He’ll probably see it as him owning the car and you paying rent on it or paying for consumables. For cone damage, tape up the front bumper a bit and the areas in front of and in the back of the wheel wells. Unless you decide to go Takumi and drift sideways into cones, you’ll be fine. You won’t break the S by autocrossing it. Learn how ot launch it correctly or don’t launch it hard (doesn’t really matter in an autox), learn to shift it well and you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![speedracer329](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedracer329/32/5058_2.png) [@speedracer329](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedracer329)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/47 "2007-04-26T07:16:13Z")
yes if you have a car with a motor swap, add a turbo/super to a N/A car, add carbon fiber parts, etc you get dropped straight in Street Mod, just stick to your S2K. i plan on breaking my 1.8t out for Seneca since i hear its more open and has higher speeds, ie faster cars do better there. ps. if youre worried about crashing your car in a risky spot, just dont push it to the limit there, its still fun… ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/48 "2007-04-26T07:19:16Z")
[quote=“rugsr,post:22,topic:28259"”] fairgentleman Z, i went to ECC last sunday [/quote] that wasn’t tracking your car then… scca club racing is tracking your car. ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/49 "2007-04-26T07:25:42Z")
[quote=rugsr;527949] That would be sweet to find a busted up S and just track that But my friend and I have always loved the 240’s. quote] you can get a gutted s2k for about 15k on s2ki… ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/50 "2007-04-26T07:40:44Z")
[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:12,topic:28259"”] It doesn’t get any cheaper than buying pre-built. [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-Mazda-RX-7-Race-Car-ITA-SCCA-ST4-EMRA-84-RX7-12A\_W0QQitemZ300103465888QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6327QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-Mazda-RX-7-Race-Car-ITA-SCCA-ST4-EMRA-84-RX7-12A_W0QQitemZ300103465888QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6327QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) [/quote] [quote=“Skurge,post:13,topic:28259"”] that Rx-7 is nice, i’d buy it if i had the 3900 [/quote] He has been trying to sell it since March, I am guessing by now he will go lower. $3900 is on the high side, $2500 and up is fair. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/51 "2007-04-26T12:31:43Z")
WHERES the 7? ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/52 "2007-04-26T12:52:16Z")
[quote=“rugsr,post:51,topic:28259"”] WHERES the 7? [/quote] > Greenville, New York, United States [http://www.google.es/maps?q=Greenville,+NY,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title](http://www.google.es/maps?q=Greenville,+NY,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title) Original add here: [http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10751](http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10751) ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/53 "2007-04-26T13:01:57Z")
I understand you really like your st00k, but I just don’t see the benefit of spending an extra few thousand dollars to have a dedicated autocross car. I’ve demo’d some cones real hard in the MR2, and it doesn’t leave any marks that don’t buff right out. Now if you want to get into tracking a car, then I can see getting a seperate car for it. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/54 "2007-04-26T13:31:32Z")
tracking as in 1/4 mile you mean right? ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/55 "2007-04-26T13:35:15Z")
No, he’s definitely refering to real tracking, like road course stuff. Which, accidents dont happen that often in lower run groups. (Almost never). ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/56 "2007-04-27T08:29:40Z")
How do the MR2’s do in handeling? ---
**Author:** ![eMKay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/emkay/32/7428_2.png) [@eMKay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eMKay)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/57 "2007-04-27T08:36:34Z")
[quote=“MPD47,post:55,topic:28259"”] No, he’s definitely refering to real tracking, like road course stuff. Which, accidents dont happen that often in lower run groups. (Almost never). [/quote] Maybe car to car accidents don’t happen often, but unless you’re not pushing the car hard, you WILL drive it off the track…And what’s the point of taking your to the track if you’re not going to find the limit and cross it occasionally? That’s why you need a car that is easy and cheap to fix, and you don’t care what it looks like. And I would not want to track a car without a cage and proper belts. If you’re going to putt around the track never exceeding 80% then by all means bring your pretty street car. But where is the fun in that? ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/58 "2007-04-27T08:40:01Z")
[quote=“rugsr,post:56,topic:28259"”] How do the MR2’s do in handeling? [/quote] Typical MR handling setup. Amazing handling, but can be very punishing if not driven correctly. I am in the learning curve right now, and it’s fairly steep, to me at least. I know that I am nowhere near the limit, yet I feel like if I go much faster, I’m going to spin it. Come out to the NCCC event and I’ll give you a ride along. 54-SM, red MkII. Name is Steve ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/59 "2007-04-27T08:56:12Z")
[quote=“eMKay,post:57,topic:28259"”] Maybe car to car accidents don’t happen often, but unless you’re not pushing the car hard, you WILL drive it off the track…And what’s the point of taking your to the track if you’re not going to find the limit and cross it occasionally? That’s why you need a car that is easy and cheap to fix, and you don’t care what it looks like. And I would not want to track a car without a cage and proper belts. If you’re going to putt around the track never exceeding 80% then by all means bring your pretty street car. But where is the fun in that? [/quote] Screw occasionally 😛 > [@some instructor](#): > > If you never go off track or never spin you are not driving at the limit. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259/60 "2007-04-27T09:08:02Z")
[quote=“eMKay,post:57,topic:28259"”] Maybe car to car accidents don’t happen often, but unless you’re not pushing the car hard, you WILL drive it off the track…And what’s the point of taking your to the track if you’re not going to find the limit and cross it occasionally? That’s why you need a car that is easy and cheap to fix, and you don’t care what it looks like. And I would not want to track a car without a cage and proper belts. If you’re going to putt around the track never exceeding 80% then by all means bring your pretty street car. But where is the fun in that? [/quote] _shrug_ I’ve had a few off track excursions and never grabbed the Armco. You can do fine in a pretty street car, pleanty of people do. But again, he’s talking about an AutoX car, not a track car. Which to me, there is no reason to sell his pretty street car for a track rat. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/build-a-track-car-for-cheap/28259.md?page=4)