# Bush wins the heisman **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 10, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746 "2005-12-10T18:28:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DTMVENG24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@DTMVENG24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTMVENG24)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/1 "2005-12-10T18:28:17Z")
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**Author:** ![cleanquick306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cleanquick306](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cleanquick306)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/2 "2005-12-10T18:29:16Z")
Dubya? ---
**Author:** ![CavlrZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@CavlrZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CavlrZ)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/3 "2005-12-10T18:45:41Z")
damn, he won the presidency two years in a row and now a heisman!! he’s doing good! i was going to listen to the heisman thing on sirius today but totally forgot about it ---
**Author:** ![dgramc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dgramc/32/5934_2.png) [@dgramc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dgramc)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/4 "2005-12-10T23:00:48Z")
The top five were: 1. Bush (USC) 2. Young (TEXAS) 3. Leinert (USC) 4. Quinn (ND) 5. Robinson (PSU) pretty much what i expected ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/5 "2005-12-11T00:37:59Z")
Reggie is just too good. He will be very good in the nfl ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2005, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/6 "2005-12-11T12:33:40Z")
i watched their last two games and WOW… just wow, the kid is a phenom back there! deserves it 100% ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/7 "2005-12-12T10:41:45Z")
bush is awesome, i just think that announcers get caught up in the best ever stuff. he’s no better than any of the greats. marcus allen, juice, bo jackson, hershal walker, barry sanders, TONY D!!! Its funny how they vote for the heisman, some years they give it to the most valuable to their team (jason white two years ago) sometimes they give to the most outstanding like with reggie this year. there is not doubt that young is more valuable to his team but the Heisman even says on it “most outstanding” thats why bush deserved it, larry should have won the heisman. How can rocket ismail not have a heisman? he’s the most electifying player in the history of college football. i think the writers vote is flawed and will always be flawed. the heisman vote should be coaches and former winners. the heisman vote should have waited till after the game on jan 4. ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/8 "2005-12-12T11:01:01Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > bush is awesome, i just think that announcers get caught up in the best ever stuff. he’s no better than any of the greats. marcus allen, juice, bo jackson, hershal walker, barry sanders, TONY D!!! > > Its funny how they vote for the heisman, some years they give it to the most valuable to their team (jason white two years ago) sometimes they give to the most outstanding like with reggie this year. there is not doubt that young is more valuable to his team but the Heisman even says on it “most outstanding” thats why bush deserved it, larry should have won the heisman. How can rocket ismail not have a heisman? he’s the most electifying player in the history of college football. i think the writers vote is flawed and will always be flawed. the heisman vote should be coaches and former winners. > > the heisman vote should have waited till after the game on jan 4. why do you constantly bring up sports from the 60s and 70s like you were there. other than the rocket, he’s teh best college player i’ve seen ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/9 "2005-12-12T11:19:04Z")
> [@rookee](#): > > why do you constantly bring up sports from the 60s and 70s like you were there. other than the rocket, he’s teh best college player i’ve seen because you can’t love a game and not know its history. marcus bo, hershal, barry were all from the 80’s? when someone is dominating people start to get short memories. I doesn’t hurt reggie that matt leinart is his qb and lyndale white is his back up. edge, marshall faulk, portis, mcgahee, eddie george, ladanian, rickey, they were all amazing too. reggie is a great but once you get there its impossible to say one guy was just so much better than the rest. I say rocket was the most amazing “player” because he was a punt and kick returner, a RB, a WR and a split end. he took over games without even touching the ball, just the threat of him… Rocket had one chance to win the 91 orange bowl for ND. maybe a minute left he takes a punt at his 9 and went the distance, even when chad brown had him wrapped up and was about 60 pounds heavier he broke loose. sure it was brought back by a penalty(bad call) but with his one shot he did it. when the season was on the line he did performed a miracle when the other team knew what he was gonna do and he still did it. ---
**Author:** ![Bravada\_442](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bravada_442/32/5982_2.png) [@Bravada\_442](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bravada_442)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/10 "2005-12-12T12:18:06Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > How can rocket ismail not have a heisman? If Desmond Howard didn’t have a Heisman, they I would say that Rocket wouldn’t deserve one either… But if Howard has one, Rocket Ismail should of defenately won it… Anyone know who won the Heisman that year? ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/11 "2005-12-12T12:25:48Z")
> [@Bravada 442](#): > > If Desmond Howard didn’t have a Heisman, they I would say that Rocket wouldn’t deserve one either… But if Howard has one, Rocket Ismail should of defenately won it… Anyone know who won the Heisman that year? 2005 – Reggie Bush, Southern Cal, TB 2004 – Matt Leinart, Southern Cal, QB 2003 – Jason White, Oklahoma, QB 2002 – Carson Palmer, Southern Cal, QB 2001 – Eric Crouch, Nebraska, QB 2000 – Chris Weinke, Florida St., QB 1999 – Ron Dayne, Wisconsin, RB 1998 – Ricky Williams, Texas, RB 1997 – Charles Woodson, Michigan, CB 1996 – Danny Wuerffel, Florida, QB 1995 – Eddie George, Ohio St., TB 1994 – Rashaan Salaam, Colorado, RB 1993 – Charlie Ward, Florida State, QB 1992 – Gino Torretta, Miami, QB 1991 – Desmond Howard, Michigan, WR **1990 – Ty Detmer, Brigham Young, QB** 1989 – Andre Ware, Houston, QB 1988 – Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State, RB 1987 – Tim Brown, Notre Dame, WR 1986 – Vinny Testaverde, Miami, QB 1985 – Bo Jackson, Auburn, TB 1984 – Doug Flutie, Boston College, QB 1983 – Mike Rozier, Nebraska, TB 1982 – Herschel Walker, Georgia, HB 1981 – Marcus Allen, Southern Cal, TB 1980 – George Rogers, South Carolina, HB 1979 – Charles White, Southern Cal, TB 1978 – Billy Sims, Oklahoma, HB 1977 – Earl Campbell, Texas, FB 1976 – Tony Dorsett, Pittsburgh, HB ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/12 "2005-12-12T12:34:41Z")
the NFL succes of past heisman winners 2005 – Reggie Bush, Southern Cal, TB = N/A 2004 – Matt Leinart, Southern Cal, QB = N/A 2003 – Jason White, Oklahoma, QB = will be a bum 2002 – Carson Palmer, Southern Cal, QB = decent so far 2001 – Eric Crouch, Nebraska, QB = quit football 2000 – Chris Weinke, Florida St., QB = bum 1999 – Ron Dayne, Wisconsin, RB = marginal succes after being the top rusher in ncaa history 1998 – Ricky Williams, Texas, RB = very good but took a year off to get high 1997 – Charles Woodson, Michigan, CB = hard to live up to college succes when u play defense but still a great player 1996 – Danny Wuerffel, Florida, QB = total bum 1995 – Eddie George, Ohio St., TB = very good for many years 1994 – Rashaan Salaam, Colorado, RB = bum 1993 – Charlie Ward, Florida State, QB = went to play in the nba and wasn’t that great 1992 – Gino Torretta, Miami, QB = bum 1991 – Desmond Howard, Michigan, WR = had periods on succes but an overall disapointment 1990 – Ty Detmer, Brigham Young, QB = bum 1989 – Andre Ware, Houston, QB =bum 1988 – Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State, RB = one of the best ever 1987 – Tim Brown, Notre Dame, WR = one of the best ever 1986 – Vinny Testaverde, Miami, QB = marginal success 1985 – Bo Jackson, Auburn, TB = great when he played in nfl, an allstar in baseball 1984 – Doug Flutie, Boston College, QB = terrible with the pats, AWESOME in canada, succes the second time in NFL 1983 – Mike Rozier, Nebraska, TB = great on the maulers(usfl), ok on the oilers 1982 – Herschel Walker, Georgia, HB (never became what he should have and the trade of him to the vikes helped dallas build there 90’s dynasty 1981 – Marcus Allen, Southern Cal, TB = a hall of famer 1980 – George Rogers, South Carolina, HB = bust 1979 – Charles White, Southern Cal, TB = bust 1978 – Billy Sims, Oklahoma, HB = not bad for the lions 1977 – Earl Campbell, Texas, FB = fuckin tank in the NFL, beat to death lead to a short 8 yr carrer 1976 – Tony Dorsett, Pittsburgh, HB= tony D, nuff said ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/13 "2005-12-12T13:05:31Z")
im a big UT fan, always like them! and i wanted to see vince young win it, i knew he wasnt but still, i think hes worth more to the texas team than bush is to usc Young is that offense for UT, take him away, and u take a lot away from texas! ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/14 "2005-12-12T13:11:16Z")
> [@00BlackSS](#): > > im a big UT fan, always like them! and i wanted to see vince young win it, i knew he wasnt but still, i think hes worth more to the texas team than bush is to usc > > Young is that offense for UT, take him away, and u take a lot away from texas! exactly why they need to have an MVP and the heisman. sometimes they give the heisman to the the MVP and sometimes they don’t. they need to be consistant with it. Its for the most outstanding, some times the most outstanding is the MVP as well. jason white was the most vaulable to his team but we all know larry was the most outstanding. Vince young may not have gotten a personal award but his reward will come on jan 4 when they beat usc. USC has looked beatable many times this year. its time for them to fall. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bush-wins-the-heisman/178746/15 "2005-12-12T13:15:05Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > exactly why they need to have an MVP and the heisman. sometimes they give the heisman to the the MVP and sometimes they don’t. they need to be consistant with it. Its for the most outstanding, some times the most outstanding is the MVP as well. jason white was the most vaulable to his team but we all know larry was the most outstanding. Vince young may not have gotten a personal award but his reward will come on jan 4 when they beat usc. USC has looked beatable many times this year. its time for them to fall. wow, i cant belive this, but i agree with you a lot today i got a 50 dollar bet with a buddy that i said UT will win, he doesnt understand spreads and shit like that, so its an out right bet. i wanted to go 200 bucks, but he said 50, i said fine…i cant wait, im going to give him a UT shirt