# Business Owners v Outside NY shipping **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 17, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664 "2009-03-17T13:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/1 "2009-03-17T13:48:35Z")
When you guys sell products, how do you do tax for items shipped outside the state? I have a business entity going to be started here in NY (Erie CO) and will be offering items online which will be shipped. I know a few guys on here do this sort of thing so looking forward to your responses. I have heard different things but I am just looking for someone who has WORKING EXPERIENCE with this. Situation 1) Item sold by me to someone in Erie Co Situation 2) Item sold by me to someone outside of Erie Co but in NY State Situation 3) Item sold by me to someone outside NY State Situation 4) Item sold by me to someone outside the US Thanks for any help you can provide. ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/2 "2009-03-17T14:03:02Z")
As long as the buyer is out of state, they are tax exempt when shipping the item out. I dont charge sales tax to out of state buyers if I ship to them. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/3 "2009-03-17T14:14:52Z")
you dont collect sales tax for anything shipped out of state… ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/4 "2009-03-17T14:16:15Z")
Can I just ask for your experience? Legit business that files tax returns? ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/5 "2009-03-17T14:19:48Z")
I have a business which I file a tax return Is the New York State sales tax rate based on the point of sale or point of delivery? Answer The point of delivery generally determines the sales tax rate to be applied to a transaction. Therefore, in computing the sales tax due, the rate to be charged is the total of the New York State tax rate in effect in the jurisdiction where delivery takes place, plus the local rate in effect in that jurisdiction, plus the MCTD 3/8% rate, if it applies. For taxable sales subject to the same tax rate, do not compute sales tax on each item separately. Instead, compute the tax on the total amount of the transaction. However, if separate sales are subject to different tax rates, then compute sales tax on each separately. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/6 "2009-03-17T14:20:00Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > Can I just ask for your experience? Legit business that files tax returns? i used to run a web store… and also common sense… look online everywhere… you are only charged sales tax if you are shipping it to the same state the business has a physical presence in… Mike from innovative will have good feedback, ask him, or lookup the laws yourself ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/7 "2009-03-17T14:23:10Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > i used to run a web store… and also common sense… look online everywhere… you are only charged sales tax if you are shipping it to the same state the business has a physical presence in… ebay for example. they only charge tax if the item is shipping to the same state that the business is located in. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/8 "2009-03-17T14:30:13Z")
We used to sell auto parts out of state every day. You do not collect sales tax for items sold out of state. 99 percent of the items I sold went out of state. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/9 "2009-03-17T16:22:51Z")
bastards still charge tax a lot of times when they shouldn’t too… amazon is great for it. ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/10 "2009-03-17T17:25:57Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > bastards still charge tax a lot of times when they shouldn’t too… amazon is great for it. when its coming into NY yes because its a NYS law. ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/11 "2009-03-17T18:53:38Z")
I have a legit tax filing business and I don’t tax clients out of state…I am a DBA as well. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/12 "2009-03-17T19:04:39Z")
> [@DarkkstaR](#): > > I have a legit tax filing business and I don’t tax clients out of state…I am a DBA as well. do you even know what DBA means? sometimes you really do come off like an idiot, you MAY not be one… but you come off like one… /walter rant ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/13 "2009-03-17T21:17:39Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > do you even know what DBA means? > > sometimes you really do come off like an idiot, you MAY not be one… but you come off like one… > > /walter rant You should talk :picard: ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/14 "2009-03-17T21:34:36Z")
On a buyers side here, all of our vendors do NOT charge us sales tax regardless of which state it goes to. However, when we create the purchase order and pay it we always have to add in the sales tax for the items as we have to prove what we paid for was delivered (public company). ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/15 "2009-03-17T22:00:35Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > do you even know what DBA means? > > sometimes you really do come off like an idiot, you MAY not be one… but you come off like one… > > /walter rant The [phrase](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrase) “ **doing business as** ” (abbreviated **DBA** or **d/b/a** ) is a [legal term](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_writing), meaning that the [name](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name) of the business or operation does not include the legal name of its [proprietor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_proprietorship), the names of all [partners](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership), or the official registered name of the [limited partnership](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_partnership) or [corporation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation) that owns it. so yes, I have a DBA. call me an idiot all you want, it still answers his question. edit: I’m confused as to how having a DBA makes me an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/16 "2009-03-17T23:22:35Z")
To be honest I have 4 DBA’s all inactive. All they take is someone to register the name downtown with $25 bucks I appriciate th responses. My partner I am filing the corporation papers with is convinced that the NY IRS agent said he needs to apply sales tax on all purchases to other states and is all worried that he needs to find the tax rate for each one. I can’t possibly think of any thing of that which makes sense unless somehow he took anything sent into NY had to be taxed and got confused. Thank god he’s just the artist. Haha ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/17 "2009-03-18T05:30:28Z")
I have a payment program that does it all and there is no tax applied for out of state sales. Listen to your friends, not your partner. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-owners-v-outside-ny-shipping/64664/18 "2009-03-18T06:24:19Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > Listen to your friends, not your partner. :grouphug: