# Cages, androids, callouts and puppies? Go on... \[split\]

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 12, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850 "2011-10-12T09:05:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/1 "2011-10-12T09:05:01Z")

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Yes for your own sake please put at the very least a solid roll bar into it.

![http://www.bethania-garage.com/images/crash/crash_hardbar3.jpg](http://www.bethania-garage.com/images/crash/crash_hardbar3.jpg)  
 ![http://www.bethania-garage.com/images/crash/crash_m2sport7.gif](http://www.bethania-garage.com/images/crash/crash_m2sport7.gif)

Plenty of glory results come up when you google miata roll bar crash, not linking those to here. Pictures tell the story however, slow cars can flip, car like this is a death trap.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/2 "2011-10-12T09:12:55Z")

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S2000s.hold up a.shit ton better than what you posted…

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**Author:** ![twomodified4u](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twomodified4u/32/6568_2.png) [@twomodified4u](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/twomodified4u)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/3 "2011-10-12T09:15:35Z")

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5 star roll resistance ftw

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/4 "2011-10-12T09:18:29Z")

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> [@I am terminally ill... no seriously... - UPDATED PICS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-am-terminally-ill-no-seriously-updated-pics/45923/33):
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> S2000s.hold up a.shit ton better than what you posted…

Oh yeah, forgot with their super titanium Vtec A pillers

You do realize that even metal roof cars have roll cages for a reason right? There is also a logic why convertibles require extra steps in safety in racing events.

To each his own however.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/5 "2011-10-12T09:22:48Z")

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![http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs430.snc4/47300_525588185439_53802402_31045505_2154052_n.jpg](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs430.snc4/47300_525588185439_53802402_31045505_2154052_n.jpg)

![http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs385.snc4/44860_525588205399_53802402_31045508_1925337_n.jpg](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs385.snc4/44860_525588205399_53802402_31045508_1925337_n.jpg)

![http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs432.snc4/47542_1393928136808_1490329388_30913137_2157622_n.jpg](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs432.snc4/47542_1393928136808_1490329388_30913137_2157622_n.jpg)

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/6 "2011-10-12T09:33:02Z")

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> [@I am terminally ill... no seriously... - UPDATED PICS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-am-terminally-ill-no-seriously-updated-pics/45923/33):
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> S2000s.hold up a.shit ton better than what you posted…

yeah looks like it:

![http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af201/emac0408/863911238_P_9.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/9/799b29dcf32f896407186349a6a48af431916b18.jpeg)

never the less, he has a 3 point restraint and thats it. The silver car they got lucky and it stuffed once in the grass on the drivers side rear and flopped back on the wheels. Notice the windshield is still 100%, IE it never took a hit. the black one was upside down for a while and came to a rest like that. Not hitting a concrete wall, or tumbling away. Physics are a bitch, centrifugal forces and G forces are why NHRA makes you use something other than a cheezy oem 3 point lap belt.

And both of the those were 50-65mph… not 130-150mph. Lift at the end of the track at 140, ass end gets loose, cross lane and hit the wall… you get the picture. Not to mention a wrinkle wall rear, just waiting to fold over, plant and pogo a car in a high speed slide.

Wouldnt catch me out there running the car for what its worth without a cage, window net, 5 pt, fire suit, etc… you know the NHRA legal stuff for a car that capable.

EDITED BECAUSE THEY BEAT ME TO THE PICS…

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/7 "2011-10-12T09:55:51Z")

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> [@So my sister was fired...need some advice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-was-fired-need-some-advice/45968/18):
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> nothing faster than a 13.59. No cage and its even a convertible… which (I dont have the rule book in front of me) is 2 seconds slower per cage requirement. IE, same cage that allows a 10.59 in a hardtop can only run a 12.59 in a convert. Or something along those lines… I cant remember, and they just changed the rules again in 2010.
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> Not bashing the car at all, its sick and top notch… but a death trap. God forbid that thing flips at the big end at 150mph, that windshield A pillar isn’t going to do shit.
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> Stay safe man, dont push your luck with the car too much. GL and be carefull.

times are either .49 or .99 for requirements, not this .59 nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/8 "2011-10-12T10:00:29Z")

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Not reading all that gibberish.

Again… s2000 holds up better.than what vlad had posted prior to my first response.

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**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/9 "2011-10-12T10:12:07Z")

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Even if it holds up “better” why wouldn’t he put a roll bar in it

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/10 "2011-10-12T10:22:45Z")

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> [@G8 1/4 mile track vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-1-4-mile-track-vid/45961/26):
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> Even if it holds up “better” why wouldn’t he put a roll bar in it

I don’t know?

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**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/11 "2011-10-12T10:56:51Z")

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> [@So my sister was fired...need some advice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-was-fired-need-some-advice/45968/18):
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> nothing faster than a 13.59. No cage and its even a convertible… which (I dont have the rule book in front of me) is 2 seconds slower per cage requirement. IE, same cage that allows a 10.59 in a hardtop can only run a 12.59 in a convert. Or something along those lines… I cant remember, and they just changed the rules again in 2010.
> 
> Not bashing the car at all, its sick and top notch… but a death trap. God forbid that thing flips at the big end at 150mph, that windshield A pillar isn’t going to do shit.
> 
> Stay safe man, dont push your luck with the car too much. GL and be carefull.

You are talking about following cage rules? you put a road racing cage into a drag car. Your cage isn’t legal for any NHRA track.

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/12 "2011-10-12T11:08:22Z")

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> [@G8 1/4 mile track vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-1-4-mile-track-vid/45961/27):
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> You are talking about following cage rules? you put a road racing cage into a drag car. Your cage isn’t legal for any NHRA track.

Who cares? The cage is for his safety, not just to pass tech inspection.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/13 "2011-10-12T11:09:24Z")

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This shits hilarious…

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/14 "2011-10-12T11:36:29Z")

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> [@So...Im thinking about selling out......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-thinking-about-selling-out/45972/2):
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> Who cares? The cage is for his safety, not just to pass tech inspection.

x2 lol, fuck a cage for looks, fuck a cage for the track… Cage is to save yo LYFEEE son

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**Author:** ![twomodified4u](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twomodified4u/32/6568_2.png) [@twomodified4u](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/twomodified4u)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/15 "2011-10-12T12:17:40Z")

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krazy kid cant post unless its a page long. Im not running a cage and ud def die with one on the street.

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**Author:** ![arodracing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@arodracing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/arodracing)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/16 "2011-10-12T12:33:40Z")

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> [@TW: 5.0 Mustang Turbo Set up](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-5-0-mustang-turbo-set-up/45971/10):
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> krazy kid cant post unless its a page long. Im not running a cage and ud def die with one on the street.

You wouldn’t die, if you wear a helmet all the time…LOL

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**Author:** ![looksexyS2000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/looksexys2000/32/6666_2.png) [@looksexyS2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/looksexyS2000)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/17 "2011-10-12T12:41:45Z")

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[ame][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E&feature=related[/ame]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E&feature=related%5B/ame%5D)

this why people dont need a cage in a s2000

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/18 "2011-10-12T12:57:26Z")

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> [@looksexyS2000"](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E&feature=related)
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> this why people dont need a cage in a s2000

That Intercooler said “fuck you wall”. Can’t touch this.

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**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/19 "2011-10-12T13:11:10Z")

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> [@TW: 5.0 Mustang Turbo Set up](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-5-0-mustang-turbo-set-up/45971/10):
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> krazy kid cant post unless its a page long. Im not running a cage and ud def die with one on the street.

This. Cage is dangerous on the street. Given this isn’t a drag car I’d see it as much safer to not cage it considering how much time it will spend on the street

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/20 "2011-10-12T13:17:05Z")

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> [@G8 1/4 mile track vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-1-4-mile-track-vid/45961/23):
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> times are either .49 or .99 for requirements, not this .59 nonsense.

sorry my recollection was off a tenth.

> [@G8 1/4 mile track vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-1-4-mile-track-vid/45961/27):
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> You are talking about following cage rules? you put a road racing cage into a drag car. Your cage isn’t legal for any NHRA track.

Do me a favor and put the car cover back on it at Darryls house after you are done measuring the tubing on the car. thanks. If/when its running and it fails tech, its nothing a sawsall and more tubing wont fix… time will tell.

> [@TW: 5.0 Mustang Turbo Set up](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-5-0-mustang-turbo-set-up/45971/10):
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> krazy kid cant post unless its a page long. Im not running a cage and ud def die with one on the street.

> [@mickdad246 vs. jake's ek hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mickdad246-vs-jakes-ek-hatch/45920/74):
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> You wouldn’t die, if you wear a helmet all the time…LOL

So you have like 4 choices I see.

-Risk a concussion or worse with a cage on the street if you get hit.  
-Risk a getting smooshed like a bug at high speed without one at the track.  
-Make one pass at the cars potential, pay for rental and pack it up.  
-Never drive the car to its full potential on the track as it sits.

BTW cage on the street. Padding is required around the driver bars, a proper harness shouldn’t let your dome contact cage bars anyway… not to mention the hoop is BEHIND the drivers head, not on the side of it… so I dont see where your head would really contact anything to begin with. Assuming thats what part of the body would warrant the: “ud def die with one on the street”

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