# Cages, androids, callouts and puppies? Go on... \[split\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 12, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850 "2011-10-12T09:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 54
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850/54 "2011-10-12T18:19:40Z")
> [@Cliff"](#): > > How do you even draw.your conclusions? You posted up some pics of a miata getting destroyed. A miata is not an s2000. I the respond saying that an s2k holds up better. That’s about the only thing I have posted in this thread. But somehow you draw some conclusion about me not understanding safety? Really? I had a one sentence response. Did you not see me post the two crushed s2000 after you said they are safer and don’t crumble like that? > [@My Fox Body Mustang Build](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-fox-body-mustang-build/39860/78): > > lol @ “15 safety experts” > > Vov, Cliff has a point. Being that he owns one and has owned his S2k for a while now, and also is no stranger to the world of cars, its safe to assume he’s at least LOOKED INTO cages and the pros/cons of them. He may be no “expert” but he also doesn’t talk out his ass. My MSM was frightening as shit at high speeds or when the tail let loose. I rode at autox in his car and felt fine. I know autox isn’t 140mph but I did the same autox in the MSM and it felt different from a safety point. Just sayin. What exactly did he look into? The fact that stock s2000 doesn’t need a cage in a rollover? He should tell that to racing safety committees. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cages-androids-callouts-and-puppies-go-on-split/260850)._