# Call before you dig!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 22, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199 "2010-07-22T13:15:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/21 "2010-07-22T21:23:58Z")

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There is a common phrase -

_“There are only 2 types of underground tanks / pipes: those that don’t leak, and those that are going to leak.”_

The best you can do is monitor the corrosion and replace them before their coatings and ultimately their structure fails.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/22 "2010-07-23T01:44:39Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> My father is currently working on a project redoing water mains for the city of Buffalo not because they really need to be done, but because they have no clue where the fuck they are run underneath the ground. A lot of our older utilities were done when a liquid lunch was common and what was drawn on paper is not what happened in reality.

Hamburg is bad like that. where I work, there is a big storm drain that always overflows after a hard rain. The owner tried to get the blueprints for the storm drain to try and fix the problem, the village said “uhhh we don’t know where that drain goes. But we know it empties into the creek at some point?”

Nice!

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/23 "2010-07-23T05:47:53Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Thank you.
> 
> But it is a main supply line that spans the country at 800 psi.  
> .

I wish we had 800 psi @ work… ☹  
Sometimes 200 is just not enough.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/24 "2010-07-23T05:51:07Z")

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lol you’re never going to commercialize that thing 😛

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/25 "2010-07-23T06:13:05Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> lol @ everyone ignoring Fry’s links 🙂

To be fair, look a the timestamps. While I was typing my reply there were no posts in the thread yet.

Anyone read the report where they mentioned a 36 foot section in the vicinity of the explosion had been replaced just years earlier. That’s not suspicious or anything.

> A section of Line A approximately 81 miles long that included the failure site was  
> internally inspected in 2000 with a standard resolution magnetic flux leakage (MFL) tool  
> and a deformation tool. This led to the replacement of a 36-foot section of pipe of Line A  
> in the vicinity of the failure site. Sections of Lines Band C approximately 65 miles long  
> that included the failure site were internally inspected in 2008 with a high resolution MFL  
> tool and a deformation tool. This led to some immediate repairs on Line C including the  
> replacement of a 200-foot section of Line C adjacent in the vicinity of the failure site.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/26 "2010-07-23T06:14:53Z")

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^^ _“They don’t make 'em like they used to”_

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/27 "2010-07-23T06:20:34Z")

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Probably used that shitty Chinese steel. 🙂

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**Author:** ![smokeyV](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyv/32/5873_2.png) [@smokeyV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyV)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/28 "2010-07-23T06:32:14Z")

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crazy. corrosion doesnt happen in buffalo, RIGHT?!?

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/29 "2010-07-23T06:37:33Z")

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could farming chemicals have sped up the corrosion process?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/30 "2010-07-23T06:45:50Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> could farming chemicals have sped up the corrosion process?

Depends on what & how much they used but it would still take a good deal of time. Ground water / rain would dilute things too.

We don’t know what the replaced (and failed) section of the pipe was made from, and we don’t know what (if anything) the farmer used.

So all we can do is look at cool pictures. But if I had to bet, farm chemicals had little or no effect.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/31 "2010-07-23T07:31:34Z")

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There is only a few miles of pipeline anyway… I’m sure it will not happen again.

![http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/analysis_publications/ngpipeline/images/ngpipelines_map.jpg](http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/analysis_publications/ngpipeline/images/ngpipelines_map.jpg)

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/32 "2010-07-23T08:38:47Z")

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Looks like Maine is pretty clear.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/33 "2010-07-23T09:18:49Z")

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ya, bu WTF louisiana?!?

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/34 "2010-07-23T10:20:11Z")

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The Gulf looks like it could have issues with a broken pipe.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/35 "2010-07-23T10:27:02Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> ya, bu WTF louisiana?!?

Largest port in the western hemisphere + refinerys + lots of natty-gas

BTW, looking at that map and inferring high risk of pipe explosions is like looking at [FlightExplorer.com](http://FlightExplorer.com) and inferring high risk of plane crashes.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/36 "2010-07-23T10:47:54Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> ya, bu WTF louisiana?!?

Pretty easy to see why the pipelines look like that when you realize who the top 5 producers are.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/37 "2010-07-23T11:22:43Z")

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The funny part is that we have a shitload of them right near us yet pay more for gas (natural and gasoline) than the West which largely has none. And not all of it is taxes.

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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/38 "2010-07-23T11:23:27Z")

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does the Legend make sense to anybody else?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/39 "2010-07-23T11:29:24Z")

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> [@LAFENGAS](#):
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> does the Legend make sense to anybody else?

Interstate = between states / across state lines  
Intrastate = inside one state

🙂

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-before-you-dig/158199/40 "2010-07-23T11:30:13Z")

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> [@LAFENGAS](#):
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> does the Legend make sense to anybody else?

> **[What is the different between intrastate and interstate? - Answers](https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_different_between_intrastate_and_interstate)**
>
> Interstates go out of state, and intrastates stay in.

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