# Calling all honda gurus **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 30, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487 "2004-09-30T15:54:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![customandsound](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@customandsound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/customandsound)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/1 "2004-09-30T15:54:28Z")
i got a b15 i want to build it up to 250hp or 350hp what is the limit to the block ?: i was going to purchase the following parts: HONDA: 1.5 (1493cc) D15B1 D15B2 D15B7 SOHC 16V [75mm] \*CIVIC [DX, S, LX] 1988-1995 \*CRX [DX] 1988-1991 \*DEL SOL [S] 1993-1995 THE KIT COMES WITH THE FOLLOWING ROCK PARTS & COMPONENTS: FULL GASKET SET #FGS2090 PISTON RINGS #PR211 PISTONS #P290 CONNECTING ROD BEARING SET #RB200 MAIN BEARINGS SET #MB290 THRUST WASHERS #TW205 OIL PUMP #OP290 TIMING BELT #TB290 PISTONS/RINGS: STD, .020 OR .040 ROD/MAIN BEARINGS: STD, .010, .020 OR .030 - turbo and dry nos setup… strickly street motor so i need to be able pass emmissions and all that happy bull shit … ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/2 "2004-09-30T15:57:55Z")
the best way to get that power is use a different engin cant put it any other way ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/3 "2004-09-30T16:05:04Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > the best way to get that power is use a different engin cant put it any other way or buy a DSM :greddy2: ---
**Author:** ![customandsound](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@customandsound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/customandsound)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/4 "2004-09-30T16:11:44Z")
i looked at dsm motor on ebay … i was thinking of just having a race chassis built around it and drop a 350 in it …but that is not what is going to happen ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/5 "2004-09-30T16:14:02Z")
dsm are ghey ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/6 "2004-09-30T16:14:26Z")
you need vtec biznichh ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/7 "2004-09-30T16:20:39Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > dsm are ghey they are GREAT! buy a DSM! :bigok: ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/8 "2004-09-30T16:21:37Z")
stfu ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/9 "2004-10-01T03:42:10Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > stfu ` ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/10 "2004-10-01T06:21:41Z")
250hp is easy. The turbo hatch im tryin to sell is around 230hp with a stock motor and a straight t3 and a cooler. 440cc’s, rom editor(full standalone capabilities) and 4-5psi. If you did a nicely matched t3/t4 with 550’s and the proper tuning, people are making close to 300hp all day long. ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/11 "2004-10-01T22:07:08Z")
i am not a fan of any d series go B u can find em pretty cheap ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/12 "2004-10-01T22:33:32Z")
problem with you set up is I see no sleeved motor no forged internals, no nothing but factory honda parts. if you run a bottle and a turbo on that motor and try to get 300whp out of it on stock internals you are doomed. either go B series or build the D right ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/13 "2004-10-04T06:29:15Z")
there’s no bottle needed…that is just asking for problems. You can do it all boost, just with a LOT of fuel. Probably keep the a/f’s like 11.5 or maybe even lower to be safe. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/14 "2004-10-04T07:17:43Z")
mini-me, turbo’d. one cam VTEC head from a 90s Civic EX… slap that bitch on your block, do the neccesary work to complete it, then slap a turbo on it… something that’ll spool quickly, like a T-28. ---
**Author:** ![phatrick2332](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@phatrick2332](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/phatrick2332)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/15 "2004-10-09T11:01:57Z")
what are u all babbling about. B15, there is no such engine. d15b1, d15b2, d15b7, yes, but no b15. If your reffering to one of the d15 engines, im assuming u have a b2 or b7 since u said u have a dx. Those both have about 9.6:1 compression, which is the highest d-series comp. There are 2 things that u can do to get 250-300 whp out of a d, and reasonably cheap. 1. Tear the engine down, put a z6 head on it, not a y8. Then toss in some pistons and rods(i.e either ls rods and grand vitara pistons, ~8.5:1 compression, or some eagles/srp,je whatever FI piston you choose) Build a decent turbo setup to run 12-15 lbs. T3, decent FMIC and good fuel management. 2. Leave the bottom end alone, take the head, do a mild port and polish, maybe a zex turbo cam, cam gear, and a new headgasket, and timingbelt. Build your turbo setup something that will run up to 10lbs pretty effiecently. I did number 2, Jason(gearhead) has the car that i built. All i had was a bone stock d15b2, t3 turbo, log mani, SMIC, 2.25 charge pipes, 2.5 straight exhaust, running turboedit. On 4lbs of boost i stayed dead even with a FWD 2g eclipse running 12lbs, from a roll at 30 to 110 and from a dead stop. The small amount of higher comp of the stock engine will give u a few more ponies that u woulnt have to make up in boost, so u have less tuning hassles, and less chance of detonating. My hatch was gutted to the max, and there are quite a few ppl around that willl vouche for how fucking hard it ripped. all in all, after buying the engine, si tranny, and the entire turbo setup, i had 1200 dollars into, but alot of hours. IF you have the skills, 300 is cake for less than 2k. ---
**Author:** ![customandsound](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@customandsound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/customandsound)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/16 "2004-10-09T15:29:57Z")
> [@phatrick2332](#): > > what are u all babbling about. B15, there is no such engine. d15b1, d15b2, d15b7, yes, but no b15. If your reffering to one of the d15 engines, im assuming u have a b2 or b7 since u said u have a dx. Those both have about 9.6:1 compression, which is the highest d-series comp. > > There are 2 things that u can do to get 250-300 whp out of a d, and reasonably cheap. > > 1. Tear the engine down, put a z6 head on it, not a y8. Then toss in some pistons and rods(i.e either ls rods and grand vitara pistons, ~8.5:1 compression, or some eagles/srp,je whatever FI piston you choose) Build a decent turbo setup to run 12-15 lbs. T3, decent FMIC and good fuel management. > > 2. Leave the bottom end alone, take the head, do a mild port and polish, maybe a zex turbo cam, cam gear, and a new headgasket, and timingbelt. Build your turbo setup something that will run up to 10lbs pretty effiecently. > > I did number 2, Jason(gearhead) has the car that i built. All i had was a bone stock d15b2, t3 turbo, log mani, SMIC, 2.25 charge pipes, 2.5 straight exhaust, running turboedit. On 4lbs of boost i stayed dead even with a FWD 2g eclipse running 12lbs, from a roll at 30 to 110 and from a dead stop. The small amount of higher comp of the stock engine will give u a few more ponies that u woulnt have to make up in boost, so u have less tuning hassles, and less chance of detonating. My hatch was gutted to the max, and there are quite a few ppl around that willl vouche for how fucking hard it ripped. > > all in all, after buying the engine, si tranny, and the entire turbo setup, i had 1200 dollars into, but alot of hours. IF you have the skills, 300 is cake for less than 2k. b15 was a typo and i already got an z6 head… and money is all a tax write off so i am not worried about that… now that i i heard all of that … that is all i needed to know… ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/17 "2004-10-09T16:02:40Z")
> [@customandsound](#): > > i looked at dsm motor on ebay … i was thinking of just having a race chassis built around it and drop a 350 in it …but that is not what is going to happen I remember some guy on GMPT that was working on putting a 350 in his talon after he got crankwalk. i dont know whatever happened to him, but i do know he had a cardomain page. here i found it [http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/419184/1](http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/419184/1) ---
**Author:** ![customandsound](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@customandsound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/customandsound)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/18 "2004-10-09T18:58:20Z")
i talked to a guy today that all he dose is build street rods and he said he was able to drop a small in it … with a lot of welding and what not ---
**Author:** ![slowkid02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@slowkid02](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowkid02)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/19 "2004-10-27T06:28:52Z")
go B 18 b low compresion and good for turbo. probably get move avalibility on parts too with a b series engine. ---
**Author:** ![rrk5485](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@rrk5485](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rrk5485)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/calling-all-honda-gurus/169487/20 "2004-11-03T12:57:52Z")
> [@grandamld9](#): > > I remember some guy on GMPT that was working on putting a 350 in his talon after he got crankwalk. i dont know whatever happened to him, but i do know he had a cardomain page. > > here i found it > > [http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/419184/1](http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/419184/1) This is what happens when a muscle car guy has no faith in a 4 cylinder.