# callout: samsara... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 25, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050 "2006-07-25T21:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/1 "2006-07-25T21:43:59Z")
so… after i read alll that crazy thread with u and orangeSS… i think we should run from a 25-30mph roll. up to what ever speed you want. I am very curious cuz my car pulls amazing from 30 in 2nd gear and im assuming yours does as well. BTW i have a stock 2006 vw gti. me and SS were dead even from a 40 roll and a dig…but in a 30mph roll i took him by a car or more. so im curious to see what i would do aginst you footnotes: My stock 2.0 gti VS. your wrx…i dont know what is done to yours ---
**Author:** ![05OrangeSS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/eada6e/32.png) [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/2 "2006-07-25T22:10:35Z")
Your car is not stock…you told me you had an APR tune or whatever…you need to tell people that…want in on the rolls we are doing??? lol ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/3 "2006-07-25T22:32:13Z")
> [@05OrangeSS](#): > > Your car is not stock…you told me you had an APR tune or whatever…you need to tell people that…want in on the rolls we are doing??? lol eh its a simple reflash thru the obd2 port… so a lil change in the ecu…but besides that the car is stock… id like to get in on afew rolls ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/4 "2006-07-25T22:54:58Z")
a VW w/a chip is NOT STOCK… ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/5 "2006-07-25T23:18:08Z")
damn, what have I done. Im gonna spend the next 2 weeks running people. My car is nothing special it’s just that Cobalt SS/SC’s DONT have ANY TOP END AT ALL. we’ll race STOCK WRX vs. STOCK GTI I only got a mod that I pluged into the OBD2 port for like a min, didn’t do any thing, and a metal pipe here or there…basically stock. why dont you race UGOSOSLOW?:pimp: J/K UGO LOL why is everyone picking on me now, I have SLOPOKE, SKURGE, 05ORANGESS, DRDOS, and YOU all wanting a run…WTF. And im not even in the main chain yet:gotme: footnotes: why u gotta lie and shit ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/6 "2006-07-25T23:36:45Z")
eh, first of all… a vw witha chip…it may net me a few tenths in the quarter mile…oh well. if u wanna play that game, then no car is stock cuz they have differnt oil or tires ect… oh and samsara, i wasnt lieing was just omiting a small tune i had done and i dont see how this is picking on you? if i ask someone i want to race them,that is not picking on them it is just seeing what my car has. wow, you guys are like fucking women…so much drama and overreacting ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/7 "2006-07-25T23:43:43Z")
you have to understand, different mods do different thigns to different cars. for example, doing any kind of re-flash or related things to the ECU on my truck won’t really do a whole lot. yeah you can firm up the shifts a little, adjust some levels and limmiters to compensate for some other mods, but in the end it doesnt really do too much. when i was considering buying a VW or Audi, i did a ton of research, and chips and re-flashes do amazing things for those cars and they respond to them very well. and i laughed at the ‘so what if it makes me a few tenths quicker?’ comment. a few tenths is a LOT. i dunno what kind of racing you are doing, but a tenth here and there is priceless in some respects. what if someone in a truely stock GTI (or whatever you have) that came right off the dealer lot called you out? would you still say you were stock? ok, so how would you explain that you pulled it by whatever? and if you keep acting like the chip doesnt really do much, then why the hell did you even get in in the first place? if it doesnt do much, how stupid are you for buying it? in all honesty, i think you would get more praise for saying that you chipped your VW then if you said it was stock. whats the shame in saying you did something to IMPROOVE your car? ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/8 "2006-07-25T23:52:04Z")
> [@MikeRi24](#): > > then why the hell did you even get in in the first place? if it doesnt do much, i got it just so i could fit in withthe VW crowd…haha…just kidden…ok guys i have a apr chip big whoppdy dooo im not stock. i still am a mid to high 14 second car so anyone still want to run? im down. i really want to see what this $20K germany econo car has got. no more of this your stock,your not,you have a bottle…w/e…we buy cars to drive them fast,not to complain about why you got beat by so and so. ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/9 "2006-07-26T00:04:36Z")
its not the fact that you have something done to your car. its the fact that you lied about it and said it was stock. thats a quick way to loose respect. sorry for the FnF refference. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/10 "2006-07-26T04:53:21Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > eh, first of all… a vw witha chip…it may net me a few tenths in the quarter mile… there aren’t many mods besides nitrous, and FI that will do this… and you _are_ going to get raped. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/11 "2006-07-26T05:21:06Z")
> [@beckington](#): > > there aren’t many mods besides nitrous, and FI that will do this… > > and you _are_ going to get raped. beck so your telling me that if you chipped a VAG car esp with a turbo you wouldnt be able to gain a few .10’s???. 👋 christ remember that article years back where all they did was tear a car apart and reduce the weight and the car gaind SECONDS in the 1/4 ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/12 "2006-07-26T06:11:25Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > eh, first of all… a vw witha chip…it may net me a few tenths in the quarter mile…oh well. if u wanna play that game, then no car is stock cuz they have differnt oil or tires ect… > > oh and samsara, i wasnt lieing was just omiting a small tune i had done and i dont see how this is picking on you? if i ask someone i want to race them,that is not picking on them it is just seeing what my car has. wow, you guys are like fucking women…so much drama and overreacting Sup Sherm, almost missed you there. ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/13 "2006-07-26T10:33:46Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > if i ask someone i want to race them,that is not picking on them it is just seeing what my car has. wow, you guys are like fucking women…so much drama and overreacting I’m just overwhelmed that I tried to race one dude so I could try and get on the greater than chain, it blew up into a big mess, and now I have 5 guys calling me out. I need a palm pilot to organize all these runs! BTW, if your really a mid-high 14’s car, I’ll smoke you. So shoot for people that are close to you, not just because someone is in controversy. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/14 "2006-07-26T10:38:14Z")
> [@XwalkerX](#): > > beck so your telling me that if you chipped a VAG car esp with a turbo you wouldnt be able to gain a few .10’s???. 👋 > > christ remember that article years back where all they did was tear a car apart and reduce the weight and the car gaind SECONDS in the 1/4 i totally understand, the reaction VAG cars have to a simple chip and tune…but he says its stock besides “chip”. My point was, the power that just a “chip” makes, is only sub par to spray, turbos, and blowers. Having a chip, will give you more power gains, than someone with I/H/E…whom wouldn’t consider themselves stock. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/15 "2006-07-26T10:55:05Z")
eitherway, samsara, i asked if we can race from a 2nd gear roll at about 30… i think i could stay dead nuts with you. lets find out why dont we? ---
**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/16 "2006-07-26T11:11:06Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > eitherway, samsara, i asked if we can race from a 2nd gear roll at about 30… i think i could stay dead nuts with you. lets find out why dont we? 😕 if you say so ps :redx: awesome smiley 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/17 "2006-07-26T12:02:09Z")
im not sure if you have 2.0 or 1.8 but… 2006 1.8 GTI 2934lbs, 180hp@5500, 173lbsTQ [http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu\_upgrade\_golf18t.html](http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_golf18t.html) 2006 2.0 GTI _3308lbs_, 200hp@5100!! 207ft-lbs [http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu\_upgrade\_mkvgti.html](http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html) 250’s hp, with 303ft-lbs…I bet it does rip out at 30mph ^^^^ is that at the WHEELS?? I wouldn’t thinks so, id be like a 75whp gain without an exhuast!! why do they not specify, and talk about dynos? 2003 WRX _3085lbs_ and… [http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images\ae-stage2-dyno.jpg](http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images%5Cae-stage2-dyno.jpg) IM \> than ^ Either you have more done to your car and trying to be sneeky or you are a little confused. BUT, Iv’e never ran one of those so I’ll run you sometime…I go to mighty on nice nights. ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/18 "2006-07-26T12:11:18Z")
Tiny tiny turbo APR = more boost it’s all about his shift points. ---
**Author:** ![98FREAKGTP](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98freakgtp/32/7213_2.png) [@98FREAKGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98FREAKGTP)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/19 "2006-07-26T15:35:55Z")
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**Author:** ![05OrangeSS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/eada6e/32.png) [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050/20 "2006-07-26T15:38:06Z")
> [@Samsara](#): > > im not sure if you have 2.0 or 1.8 but… > > 2006 1.8 GTI 2934lbs, 180hp@5500, 173lbsTQ > [http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu\_upgrade\_golf18t.html](http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_golf18t.html) > > 2006 2.0 GTI _3308lbs_, 200hp@5100!! 207ft-lbs > [http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu\_upgrade\_mkvgti.html](http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html) > 250’s hp, with 303ft-lbs…I bet it does rip out at 30mph > ^^^^ is that at the WHEELS?? I wouldn’t thinks so, id be like a 75whp gain without an exhuast!! why do they not specify, and talk about dynos? > > 2003 WRX _3085lbs_ and… > [http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images%5Cae-stage2-dyno.jpg](http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/images%5Cae-stage2-dyno.jpg) > IM \> than ^ > > Either you have more done to your car and trying to be sneeky or you are a little confused. BUT, Iv’e never ran one of those so I’ll run you sometime…I go to mighty on nice nights. o man…internet racing at it’s finest…sorry I couldn’t resist…dyno #'s mean nothing until you race the person…a number is just so you can try to figure out who would be a good run. JUST DO IT!!! Sunday is good for everybody right?? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-samsara/15050.md?page=2)