# Camaro vs Mustang facepalm thread (split) **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 21, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/camaro-vs-mustang-facepalm-thread-split/256550 "2011-01-21T14:08:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 222
**Author:** ![dsblk93gt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@dsblk93gt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dsblk93gt)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/camaro-vs-mustang-facepalm-thread-split/256550/222 "2011-01-27T18:05:06Z")
> [@Black Friday](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/black-friday/39141/32): > > the n/a 4.6 TFS headed SOHC making high 300 wheel is not impressivce to us ls1/lsx fan boi moes tho.(or really to anyone or for any car snce now days standard seems to be 500wheel and even thats slow:Idiots) a cam only ls1 can easily 4-420 rwhp n/a, while not many but some do heads only and are at the 400 mark. now a GREAT combo of both head and cam only can put a ls1 at 480-500 whp. while fords have always had better rears and gm’s have not, stock rears have been into the 10s and better, some are freaks and hold lots of power, but i wil agree with the fact some cant even hold stock power 500rwhp will power a foxbody into the 10’s with ease and more than enough on the street. In a heavier car it may not be a lot of power but that’s why dynos don’t win races. There are WAY more factors that come into play. I have been going to the track for along time and I have seen 400rwhp cars spank 500+rwhp cars. That is why most guys serious about racing and getting good track times don’t spend there time on a dyno. Hell, most of the fast cars at the track have never even hit a dyno, here is a guy I knows old 07 GT500… How much power does it make??? No clue, he races at the TRACK. Ran 9.87@140 with a stock engine and stock 6spd transmission. Rearend is a beefed up 8.8 Race weight around 3850lbs… [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/1/2118dbb75ccf454a5b71a190fb99db6bb9ec07ac.jpeg "Ted Lewchuk 9.87@140mph Shelby 2007") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NA6a2QWCQo) --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/camaro-vs-mustang-facepalm-thread-split/256550)._