# Can a DET be used as a DE...yes you read that right. **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [July 3, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745 "2008-07-03T18:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saifa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@saifa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/saifa)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/1 "2008-07-03T18:26:58Z")
Whats up guys. My flame retardant NOOB suit is buttoned on. I am having troubles finding a S13 DE long block for my NA build. Can I use and S13DET? Other than the turbo setup, couple sensors and obviously a different compression are they pretty much the same? Have been searching this since yesterday on a few different forums and everytime I think I am close i end up reading about a Sentra swap or something. Again…sorry to NOOB. Seann ---
**Author:** ![Hacknik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hacknik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hacknik)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/2 "2008-07-03T18:35:39Z")
Dude … you really need to re-word things. The term “DE” just means Dual Overhead Cams. If your looking for a long block KA24DE , there are tons. The Sentra on the other hand is an SR20DE ( if im correct ) and its a FWD engine, meaning it wont work for any RWD setup, ( unless you do all the conversion work, but there is no point ). KA’s that are turbo charged ( custom made ) use the same sensors i belive. But yea … your post was confussing and this was the only answer i had at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![side\_wayz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5e9695/32.png) [@side\_wayz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/side_wayz)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/3 "2008-07-03T18:42:36Z")
what you want would be the sr20de…you dont wanna go tho the hassel of making a sr20det non turboed…they are about the same motor setup… i dont know exact specs. ---
**Author:** ![saifa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@saifa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/saifa)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/4 "2008-07-03T18:42:53Z")
Point taken and edited original. ---
**Author:** ![saifa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@saifa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/saifa)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/5 "2008-07-03T18:45:00Z")
Hmm aparently I cannot edit the original for some reason. Sorry for the confusion. I am trying to source an S13 SR20de for an NA build. I cannot find one. Can i use an S13 SR20det in its place? What are the major differences other than what i listed above. Good thing I had the Noob suit on 'eh Seann ---
**Author:** ![jed240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a4c791/32.png) [@jed240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jed240)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/6 "2008-07-03T19:51:15Z")
why? no love for the KA? n/a 2.4\>2.0 ---
**Author:** ![Tarz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tarz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tarz)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/7 "2008-07-03T20:25:35Z")
use a KA if u want to do a NA or swap in a vg30de that would be ballin in a 240 ---
**Author:** ![saifa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@saifa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/saifa)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/8 "2008-07-03T20:30:00Z")
Nothing against the KA really. After a few weeks of trolling on forums I have found more things that favour the SR for what i would like to try personally…especially if I get brave enough for a VE head swap. Seann ---
**Author:** ![frankduxx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/frankduxx/32/5647_2.png) [@frankduxx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/frankduxx)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/9 "2008-07-03T22:37:55Z")
vg is crap ---
**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/10 "2008-07-03T22:46:02Z")
Sr20de = 160hp~ ka24de = 150hp~ Stock they are about the same. Definitely more of a market for doing the SR build. Most easily accesible aftermarket parts for a KA are turbo spec. I.E. Cams, pistons, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Pants](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pants/32/5590_2.png) [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/11 "2008-07-03T22:53:16Z")
> [@Whats up everyone...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-up-everyone/17334/26): > > vg is crap the VG is one of the BEST motors nissan has ever built what the hell is wrong with you ---
**Author:** ![spooolin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@spooolin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spooolin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/12 "2008-07-04T02:29:47Z")
haha yea no shit eh… VG is a sick ass motor!!! and Y the hell would you want to UN turbo a SR?? You would have the low compression so it would be slugish all the time. and yea… that would just be really dumb… if you want SR go SR20DET! or u want NA go with the lil bit of torque from the KA ---
**Author:** ![saifa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@saifa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/saifa)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/13 "2008-07-04T04:48:09Z")
Focus fellas…I dont car about VG’s and KA’s and this isn’t going in a 240. Can anyone please tell me the main differences between the S13 SR20DET and DE…obviously a lack of turbo…and then… Seann ---
**Author:** ![saifa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@saifa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/saifa)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/14 "2008-07-04T06:06:50Z")
Baically are the gasket sets interchangable? Front cover? Oil pumps are different I believe. Are the internals essentially the same other than rod material and compression? Is the DET Coil while the DE has a distributor? Stuff like that ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/15 "2008-07-04T09:03:03Z")
Pretty sure you can get a DE for cheap too if imported. If you wanna be really baller, grab a DE from an S15, there was definitely a high output version of it, I believe near the 200hp mark. ---
**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/16 "2008-07-05T09:03:11Z")
this is a really stupid idea man … NA sr build ? stock sr20det are reliable … if u dont like the turbo then there is something wrong with you. ---
**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/17 "2008-07-05T09:53:29Z")
why are you all so gay and ragging on him for this? NA is better than Turbo in every single way except like… maybe 1. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kollo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kollo/32/5661_2.png) [@kollo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kollo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/18 "2008-07-05T10:49:04Z")
just do the srde swap im pretty sure everything but the hea you can take off of a sentra with a sr20de the head just dont swap becuase of the anti freeze ports ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_jared/32/5660_2.png) [@imported\_Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jared)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/19 "2008-07-05T11:57:59Z")
> [@what winter beater to buy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-winter-beater-to-buy/17525/8): > > Sr20de = 160hp~ > ka24de = 150hp~ > > Stock they are about the same. Definitely more of a market for doing the SR build. Most easily accesible aftermarket parts for a KA are turbo spec. I.E. Cams, pistons, etc… lol that doesnt look right to me man… I believe sr20de is 140hp. I can’t see nissan making a 2.0 N/A more powerful than a 2.4L N/A. It just wouldnt make any sense. I think If I saw anyone swap an sr20de into a 240 I would lol pretty hard… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_jared/32/5660_2.png) [@imported\_Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jared)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745/20 "2008-07-05T12:01:21Z")
hmmm just did a quick search. Appears were both right. Only s14 and s15 silvias had that 160hp your talking about. The rest in previous years were less powerful, as low as 125hp actually. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-a-det-be-used-as-a-de-yes-you-read-that-right/116745.md?page=2)