# Can an employer do this to me?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 27, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731 "2006-11-27T13:00:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/21 "2006-11-27T15:13:31Z")

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> [@badazzss](#):
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> Justin isn’t in the software dev. field though, so that’s a little bit different.
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> I wasn’t under the impression that an employer could significantly cut your wage (especially by a huge percentage) at will. Guess I’m wrong on that though.
> 
> Even if you took a better paying job @ Depot or Wegmans for the time being, and explained your change in future interviews, it probably wouldn’t be an issue. At least the job was good for some experience though…

Jeez Jay,

I wish i took those software development classes when I was in school.

Not too late for me though, I might get into some .net books and php.

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**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/22 "2006-11-27T15:15:37Z")

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Steal your bosses account and go into business for yourself.You’ve mentioned where you work in other threads and I think it can be done,lol.

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/23 "2006-11-27T16:58:16Z")

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Interesting I was just reading up on this cause I was bored at work today…

1. How many people work for your company?
2. How many people are getting laid off?

[labor.state.ny.us](http://labor.state.ny.us)

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/24 "2006-11-27T17:05:22Z")

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Have you tried talking to a recruiter? Systems Personnel ([http://www.systemspersonnel.com/](http://www.systemspersonnel.com/)) They placed two of my IT friends, one windows admin, one unix admin.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/25 "2006-11-27T17:36:48Z")

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NY is an “employment at will” state which basically means you can quit or he can fire you at any time.  
If you weren’t one of the people he laid-off he probably thinks you are pretty good at what you do and he values you.  
BUT, only you know this guy and your history with him.  
If he has shorted you in the past then he may try to take advantage of you again.  
Like someone else said, this is a gut call.  
I pay “unskilled” people more money with paid time off and benefits.:gotme:

Edit: One other thing, you pretty much have to shoot your boss to be denied unemployment in NY.:roll2:

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**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/26 "2006-11-27T18:06:14Z")

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unfortunately, business is business.

if i was in your situation… i would stick it out, collect the experience and pick up another job to augment the lost wages.

but as krazykarl said… do what your gut says.

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**Author:** ![airhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/airhead/32/7471_2.png) [@airhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/airhead)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/27 "2006-11-27T21:09:19Z")

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> [@HotRodKid](#):
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> get it in writing that he will pay the difference afterwards
> 
> make surwe to include a clause that stipulates that a late payment has a penalty fee … 25% should do …
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> this should test if hes full of shit … see if he signs it

:word: Employers will some crazy things when business is really bad, and/or the company is going under. A member of my family had problems like this a few years ago. Tons of overtime worked, and he never saw a dime. The owner had excuse after excuse, because the business was failing. She cancelled his health insurance without notifying him, which he found out when he went to the ER. He might have recieved a few hundred of his money a year later. Get it in writing.

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**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/28 "2006-11-27T21:41:08Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> if i had a degree + experience and was excited to get an 11$/hr job, i’d shoot myself…

+2

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**Author:** ![StairSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stairsrt4/32/7585_2.png) [@StairSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StairSRT4)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/29 "2006-11-28T06:51:11Z")

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> [@zwarbyt](#):
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> They cannot legally lower your wage, you can turn down the lower wage and collect unemployment.
> 
> They have to offer you 80% of your wage before they cannot allow you to collect unemployment

I agree. tell your boss you want to opt for the unemployment instead. Then if I were you I would try and get an “under the table” job to make extra money for the holidays…why work 40+ hours a week making less than you would if you were on unemployment. you will still technically be working for that company so it shouldn’t hurt your resume. good luck

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/30 "2006-11-28T07:02:09Z")

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> [@zwarbyt](#):
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> They cannot legally lower your wage, you can turn down the lower wage and collect unemployment.
> 
> They have to offer you 80% of your wage before they cannot allow you to collect unemployment

They can lower your wage legally.  
Like I said before though, you have to shoot your boss to get denied unemployment.

Many years ago we had a “shared work” program through NYS.  
Everyone worked 32 hours and they received unemployment for the remaining hours.  
This way everyone got to keep their job.🙂  
It worked out well.

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**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/31 "2006-11-28T07:03:45Z")

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they can legal lower your wage, but not more than 80% without offiering you the ability to turn it down

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**Author:** ![avs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@avs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/avs)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/32 "2006-11-28T08:43:59Z")

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They can cut your paid, but they have to give it to you in writing ahead of time. Man im going through the legal process right now with my current job. They gave me a nice offer letter, but when i started working i got lowballed big time. Private company are shady like that. Your best bet is to get a job with the state or feds. None of these bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/33 "2006-11-28T09:05:59Z")

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> [@avs](#):
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> Private company are shady like that. Your best bet is to get a job with the state or feds. None of these bullshit.

It is sad to read that.  
Not all private companies are shady.

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**Author:** ![Johnnylude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Johnnylude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnylude)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/34 "2006-11-28T10:24:45Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> just do something real shitty and get fired. then collect unemployment.

i thought that you can only collect unemployment is if u get laid off…

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/35 "2006-11-28T10:57:01Z")

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Like I said twice before you can almost always get unemployment in NYS.

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**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/36 "2006-11-28T19:15:44Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> It is sad to read that.  
> Not all private companies are shady.

I know, i trust private small companies over big organizations any day of the week

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**Author:** ![avs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@avs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/avs)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/37 "2006-11-28T20:03:34Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> It is sad to read that.  
> Not all private companies are shady.

Im sorry. I meant some.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2006, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/38 "2006-11-29T04:21:25Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> if i had a degree + experience and was excited to get an 11$/hr job, i’d shoot myself…

degree + no exp = $11/hr job  
☹

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-an-employer-do-this-to-me/20731/39 "2006-11-29T05:27:26Z")

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sorry to hear that justin… thats some shady shit right there. Talk about bad timing :tdown:

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