# Can it be done?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [January 17, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347 "2012-01-17T18:39:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/1 "2012-01-17T18:39:37Z")
So today I got this crazy idea in my head and I wonder if its possible.
The idea is an awd GM G-Body (Monte Carlo, Cutlass, Regal, Grand Prix).
Since the front of the frame is basically the same as a 2wd S10 the front of a 4wd S10 frame could be grafted on, along with the differential and all the related parts. Would need to keep the torsion bar set up too.
Then use a Bravada or Astro transfer case on a 700r4.
What got me thinking is how Chrysler can make a rwd car like a 300 or Charger awd and keep it fairly low to the ground so why not another normally rwd car?
An awd Grand National would be sick.
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### Author:  [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/2 "2012-01-17T18:47:51Z")
I like where you’re going with this. I bet it wouldn’t be that bad.
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### Author:  [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/3 "2012-01-17T19:00:51Z")
There is a lot of differance man , look at a 2wd s10 and a 4wd. Totally diff susp ,springs , frame etc . Could it be done ? Yeah but Prolly not worth it . Go get a a.w.d astro slam it and install a built small block .
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/4 "2012-01-17T19:03:55Z")
I was thinking just cut the S10 4x4 frame and weld it to the G Body frame and keep the S10 suspension intact. The 2wd and 4wd frames are different but theyre similar enough to fit under the same body (S10). The rear halves are identical too.
Fuck vans. They weigh too much and have the aerodynamics of a brick.
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### Author:  [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/5 "2012-01-17T19:06:16Z")
Good to see Paul interested in building _another_ car to terrorize the streets, just like he did with the Mustang!
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/6 "2012-01-17T19:08:16Z")
I didnt say I was actually going to do it. I was wondering if it was possible.
I dont plan on buying or building any other cars, ever.
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### Author:  [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/7 "2012-01-17T19:35:14Z")
Nice Paul! Now you’re thinking! good work. Happy birthday.
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/8 "2012-01-17T23:23:19Z")
that would be a pretty sweet project. It would be alot of work tho. The engine crossmember will fuck you hard and youll probably have to raise the floorpans up. Why not take a bravada chassis and mount a cutlass body on it…? it would be easier in the long run.
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### Author:  [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/9 "2012-01-17T23:36:51Z")
A typhoon/cyclone swapped AWD astro is one of my dream vehicles.
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/10 "2012-01-17T23:41:31Z")
heres some guy that did it:
> I had done a Chevy Monte Carlo with an AWD setup from a GMC Syclone and a v8 engine a few years back… My Malibu may get the AWD Syclone setup eventually if I pull it apart again with my new twin turbo banks setup I’m going to be building. But using a built GN turbo V6 was another option for me.
> The chevy A body, and G body, share many front end components with the 2wd chevy S10 and therefore the front end mods were pretty straightforward. You will have to make floorpan modifications and transmission tunnel to fit the transmission and transfer case, also, the engine will have to sit higher and further back on the chassis, so you’ll need a cowl hood and other mods to the firewall.
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/11 "2012-01-18T04:09:17Z")
any pics from where that was quoted from?
And the problem with a full on body swap is that a G Body wont line up on an S-Series frame. Pretty close to a K5 frame but then its a lifted 4x4 at that point. Ive seen a few of those swaps but thats not the goal here.
Im kinda surprised the cross member would be an issue because theres tons of s10’s with v8 swaps. Theres even a 4x4 Blazer with a 305 on craigslist now.
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### Author:  [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/12 "2012-01-18T04:50:35Z")
DO ET!
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2012, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/13 "2012-01-18T09:34:43Z")
no pics that i came across. Im just saying it still would be easier to body swap a gbody. So the body mounts dont line up big whoop. Overall width would be fairly close, the only problem spot would be the gbody frames have an upsweep over the rear wheels.
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### Author:  [@TonyJ124](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TonyJ124)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2012, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/14 "2012-01-18T09:35:37Z")
> [@Anyone own or know owners of smart cars?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/55):
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> A typhoon/cyclone swapped AWD astro is one of my dream vehicles.
QFT.
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2012, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/15 "2012-01-18T10:36:09Z")
[youtu.be/Nl-WMoZCZsQ](https://youtu.be/Nl-WMoZCZsQ)
Just lift it, so you can use it like a truck but its still a car and its 4X4.
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/16 "2012-01-18T17:24:59Z")
Ive seen an '80 Monte Carlo like that at Guptill’s a few years ago and he had videos of it offroading.
I want car height, not lifted truck height.
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### Author:  [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/17 "2012-01-20T19:27:05Z")
anything is possible… 4wd neon, stock height and everything!
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/18 "2012-01-20T19:51:56Z")
I remember that car. The last time I saw it was on a car hauler coming from Northway auction.
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### Author:  [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/19 "2012-01-21T04:33:06Z")
Typhoon swapped G-Body would be nice. Similar to the 4G63 Expo pipe dream I have.
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### Author:  [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-it-be-done/262347/20 "2012-01-21T07:38:44Z")
> [@WTB all that is man car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-all-that-is-man-car/47880/17):
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> anything is possible… 4wd neon, stock height and everything!
> 
I hope you had permission from Wayne to post pictures of his new project…
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