# Can't decide between A/V Receivers
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 13, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238 "2007-12-13T18:24:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/21 "2007-12-14T09:34:18Z")
B & K Components. Talk to SpenceSpeed.
VERY NICE top shelf stuff. costly, but 5 steps above the mentioned.
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### Author:  [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/22 "2007-12-14T09:38:01Z")
What the hell happened to my post?
Anyways, just get one that looks the best to you. Clearly there is no generall consensus on wich one will give you more information. Its mainly based on your prefrences. But theyre both going to sound good enough to you, so pick the one you like…
Id get the onyko, but the h/k i suppose has snazzy blue lights.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/23 "2007-12-14T09:43:11Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> B & K Components. Talk to SpenceSpeed.
>
> VERY NICE top shelf stuff. costly, but 5 steps above the mentioned.
him: I’m looking to test drive a civic
you: but have you tested the new M5 yet? you’d love it.
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### Author:  [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/24 "2007-12-14T09:44:58Z")
> [@theblue](#):
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> I own and recommend you look into Marantz. H/K went downhill a decade ago and Onkyo is just so-so (you can do better).
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> and chino, come on, I expect that sort of post from something with a vagina.
hes not going to get a marantz cheap
and where do u get onkyo is just so-so from?
onkyo is one of the top mid range recievers out there.
Marantz is top of the line and im thinking he isnt looking at that from the models specified.
Best thing to do is listen to them if possible, then decide.
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### Author:  [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/25 "2007-12-14T09:57:36Z")
Yes, I appreciate the recommendations on the higher end stuff, but I am not looking to drop a bunch of money on a home theater setup.
I’m sticking to the Onkyo or H/K. Either way, they should be more than enough for my needs.
Unfortunately, this thread has me where I started. A split decision between both. Lol.
Thanks.
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### Author:  [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/26 "2007-12-14T10:20:19Z")
in a nutshell:
The Onkyo is “considered” a better product technically as far as features, bells & whistles, and interface. …while having great sound for the price range.
HK is “considered” to have better sound quality and range… but isn’t necesasrily as “cool” or well equiped feature wise.
With that being out there - have you addressed the listening conditions of your room?
Have you considered the acoustic needs of the listening area?
Have you actually designated a listening area & are you choosing your equip based on its needs?
based on your choices above, I’m guessing not. If you’re not going that far overboard with your intended use… then you most likely wont notice “minor” differences in sound quality. Differences in range? Sure.
So - I would pick which one that you would _rather use everyday_. Or looks better with _your current setup_. Or costs less… etc
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### Author:  [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/27 "2007-12-14T11:00:49Z")
> [@theblue](#):
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> I own and recommend you look into Marantz. H/K went downhill a decade ago and Onkyo is just so-so (you can do better).
>
> and chino, come on, I expect that sort of post from something with a vagina.
> [@66impalass](#):
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> Not true, I can swap between my current and my old components and I can tell the difference
I challenge either of you to tell me the difference between those two receivers by listening to them without knowing which one is which. If I really had free time and means to setup a test I would put money on it, however I am not that motivated.
edit: yes you could tell the difference between a very high end unit and a low end unit, but comparable products I highly doubt it.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/28 "2007-12-14T11:02:43Z")
dude, there are some audio tests that we’d easily fail. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
at the low end and mid range the differences are all very obvious… at the high end things can get a little harder.
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### Author:  [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/29 "2007-12-14T11:06:22Z")
ok - if you feel that you can determine the difference between these two units, great, I’ll leave it at that purely on lack of caring about the topic. Not on feeling that I’m incorrect in what I said.
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### Author:  [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/30 "2007-12-14T13:05:46Z")
> [@BooStang](#):
>
> in a nutshell:
>
> The Onkyo is “considered” a better product technically as far as features, bells & whistles, and interface. …while having great sound for the price range.
>
> HK is “considered” to have better sound quality and range… but isn’t necesasrily as “cool” or well equiped feature wise.
>
> With that being out there - have you addressed the listening conditions of your room?
> Have you considered the acoustic needs of the listening area?
> Have you actually designated a listening area & are you choosing your equip based on its needs?
>
> based on your choices above, I’m guessing not. If you’re not going that far overboard with your intended use… then you most likely wont notice “minor” differences in sound quality. Differences in range? Sure.
>
> So - I would pick which one that you would _rather use everyday_. Or looks better with _your current setup_. Or costs less… etc
No, I have not addressed the acoustics of my room or set it up for sound. I, frankly, am not into it that much to set up my room for sound. It will just have to work into the room as is.
I agree with your points and will just pick the receiver that is the better deal or appeals more to me.
Hell, at this point, I’m wondering if even these two are more than I truly need. I may look at some lower end Onkyo stuff. Possibly, their SR800 HTIB setup or the receiver that comes in that setup with a better set of speakers.
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cant-decide-between-a-v-receivers/40238/31 "2007-12-14T13:46:47Z")
> [@chino](#):
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> ok - if you feel that you can determine the difference between these two units, great, I’ll leave it at that purely on lack of caring about the topic. Not on feeling that I’m incorrect in what I said.
I can tell the difference between my Integra and my Krell, all things being equal.
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