# CAP AND TRADE THREAD

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738>\
**Category:** PolitiSUCK\
**Created:** [June 26, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738 "2009-06-26T12:02:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/21 "2009-06-26T13:07:29Z")

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So quit whining about it and leave. I hear the pollution in China is nice this time of year.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/22 "2009-06-26T13:08:12Z")

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You really don’t get it. Sad really.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/23 "2009-06-26T13:09:47Z")

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Your crazy agenda and conspiracy theories? Nope. Probably never will. Stop trying.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/24 "2009-06-26T13:24:40Z")

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Yeah crazy agenda “a free country” who could be so crazy?  
I am not the only one sick and tired of this global warming scam being used to scare us into paying for national healthcare. You really thik it is coincidence that this has to be forced through before Barry gets his healthcare plan through before years end? Yeah, conspiracy. Get a clue.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/25 "2009-06-26T13:29:15Z")

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global warming = health care?  
 ![http://www.marktoon.co.uk/cartoons/clipart-man-sitting-in-front-of-pc-does-not-compute.gif](http://www.marktoon.co.uk/cartoons/clipart-man-sitting-in-front-of-pc-does-not-compute.gif)

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/26 "2009-06-26T13:34:17Z")

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Where is the money going to come from to pay for healthcare for all of the leeches?  
OH, I KNOW, people want to save the planet! PROFIT.

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**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/27 "2009-06-26T13:34:22Z")

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Joe, I know you are a pretty smart guy. I do heavily respect your financial/economic knowledge on this site and you seem to have a fairly comprehensive grasp on how politics work in this country (and the entire world for that matter). But you are fucking crazy if you think this is right. Judging strictly from how you generally post, I have no idea how you are such a Dem.

And for the record, I feel BED does get carried away with his “conspiracy theories” quite often, but hes pretty dead on here.

buzzkill out!

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**Author:** ![kenmxz13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kenmxz13/32/5288_2.png) [@kenmxz13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kenmxz13)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/28 "2009-06-26T13:52:49Z")

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Maybe some people realize we have to start changing our ways? By hitting people in the wallet, people might actually start cutting back.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/29 "2009-06-26T15:50:57Z")

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This is probably the most dishonest bill I can ever remember. They know that profits and income are down and tax revenue is not there so they tax something they know Americans can’t do without - heat/electricity DURING A BAD RECESSION NO LESS!!! They have reached a new low by a mile. This is DISGUSTING! Way to totally fuck the people of your country. This dishonesty is proof that they know the healthcare bill has no legs. DISPICABLE!

I am praying this bill has no chance in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/30 "2009-06-26T16:54:49Z")

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I just picture this guy sitting there screaming at his computer as he angrily stabs keys with one finger.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/31 "2009-06-26T17:03:53Z")

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Kennedy came out of fucking rehab to get this thing passed!

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called the energy and climate control bill her “flagship issue.” Congress-watchers say that Pelosi took a gamble by bringing the bill to the floor with the outcome in question.

I hope this “flag ship” sinks her and everyone else that voted for it.

They are fucking this country right to hell.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/32 "2009-06-26T17:07:37Z")

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It’s going to pass, and then the government is going to take your money,and make you downsize to a $250,000 houseand eat your childrenand turn you into a Muslim like Barack HUSSEIN ObamaAnd KILL YOU! MUAHAHAHAHA

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/33 "2009-06-26T18:48:22Z")

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Ignorance is bliss.

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**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/34 "2009-06-27T09:17:05Z")

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WOW. usually i enjoy reading BED VS JOE threads but damn joe. your blinded by hate of the right wingers.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/35 "2009-06-27T10:10:15Z")

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I don’t hate the right wing, in fact, as previously stated, I don’t even care about this issue. I just find that whatever side he picks is usually wrong, so I chose the other.

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**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/36 "2009-06-27T12:10:31Z")

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^^typical liberal mindset.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/37 "2009-06-27T13:04:59Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> I just picture this guy sitting there screaming at his computer as he angrily stabs keys with one finger.

I picture me paying the government way more then I already am.

If you really care about saving the planet why don’t we just kill off all the 3rd world countries without pollution control? I think that would be better then limiting what car I can drive.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/38 "2009-06-27T14:13:41Z")

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i’m cool with that too. if theres a bill for that i support it

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**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/39 "2009-06-27T14:48:13Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> I picture me paying the government way more then I already am.
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> If you really care about saving the planet why don’t we just kill off all the 3rd world countries without pollution control? I think that would be better then limiting what car I can drive.

I’ll vote for you

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**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cap-and-trade-thread/69738/40 "2009-06-27T18:39:53Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> i’m cool with that too. if theres a bill for that i support it

it may not mean anything to you but that comment, has just CHANGEed my mind about you and given me some HOPE in the people that fall to the left side of things :mamoru:

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