# Car and Driver "08 Lightning Lap" test results just released ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [September 27, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192 "2008-09-27T15:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![St2SC\_dCobalt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/st2sc_dcobalt/32/6413_2.png) [@St2SC\_dCobalt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/St2SC_dCobalt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/1 "2008-09-27T15:00:38Z")
Test consists of one lap around _ **Virginia International Raceway** _ (4.2miles). For a complete overview, I’ve combined all three years of their LL test (06-08). 2:45.9 - 2008 Mosler MT900S 2:48.6 - 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR 2:54.6 - 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2:55.6 - 2008 Nissan GT-R 2:58.2 - 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 3:00.7 - 2005 Ford GT 3:01.1 - 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 3:01.2 - 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 3:01.6 - 2006 Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe 3:01.8 - 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 3:03.6 - 2007 Chevrolet Corvette C6 3:04.0 - 2008 Cadillac CTS-V 3:04.5 - 2007 Lotus Exige S 3:04.6 - 2007 Audi R8 3:05.6 - 2008 BMW M3 3:05.8 - 2007 Porsche 997 Turbo 3:05.9 - 2007 Ford Shelby GT500 3:06.5 - 2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG 3:09.2 - 2006 Lotus Elise 3:09.3 - 2006 Chevrolet Corvette 3:09.5 - 2006 Porsche Cayman S 3:10.0 - 2006 BMW M6 3:10.5 - 2007 BMW 335i Coupe 3:11.0 - 2007 Ford Shelby GT500 3:11.2 - 2007 Audi RS4 3:11.7 - 2007 BMW Z4 M 3:12.5 - 2006 Nissan 350Z Track **[color=red]3:13.0 - 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged** 3:13.3 - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.5 - 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.7 - 2008 BMW 135i 3:14.0 - 2008 Lexus IS F 3:14.6 - 2008 Audi S5 3:15.0 - 2008 Honda S2000 CR 3:15.7 - 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP 3:16.0 - 2007 Mazda Speed 3 3:16.3 - 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 3:16.6 - 2008 Lotus Elise SC 3:17.5 - 2008 Infiniti G37 Sport 3:18.2 - 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8 3:19.0 - 2006 Mazda RX-8 3:19.0 - 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 3:20.6 - 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged 3:20.8 - 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT-4 3:20.9 - 2006 Ford Mustang GT 3:21.8 - 2008 Volkswagen R32 3:22.9 - 2007 Mini Cooper S 3:24.8 - 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si 3:25.1 - 2006 Volkswagen GTI 3:26.5 - 2006 Honda Civic Si 3:26.6 - 2008 Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0 3:29.3 - 2006 Mazda MX-5[/color] The new $23,000 08 Cobalt SS Turbo beat every single car in it’s class, along with some cars that were in the higher classes (including the “Rally” inspired Evo and Sti). Even the stock 205hp 06 Supercharged Balt SS beat the Caliber SRT-4, Ford Mustang GT, Volkswagen R32, Mini Cooper S, Civic Mugen Si, Volkswagen GTI, Honda Civic Si, Volvo C30 T5, and Mazda MX-5. ;D ---
**Author:** ![EJEvo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ejevo/32/6361_2.png) [@EJEvo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EJEvo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/2 "2008-09-27T16:26:48Z")
:ohnoes ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/3 "2008-09-27T16:30:52Z")
something is seriously wrong with some things on that list. I wonder what track configuration they used. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/4 "2008-09-27T16:36:04Z")
> [@Mafdark](#): > > something is seriously wrong with some things on that list. I wonder what track configuration they used. :lks ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/5 "2008-09-27T16:41:02Z")
this right here bothers the shit out of me: > 3:18.2 - 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8 > 3:19.0 - 2006 Mazda RX-8 > 3:19.0 - 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI top gear should go on a fact finding mission. why the hell is the 2008 STI the only one on that list? The last two weren’t good enough to be tested? ---
**Author:** ![EJEvo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ejevo/32/6361_2.png) [@EJEvo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EJEvo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/6 "2008-09-27T18:55:24Z")
> 3:10.5 - 2007 BMW 335i Coupe > 3:11.7 - 2007 BMW Z4 M My buddy tried to call out C&D on this one, too, but got no response from them. So he pointed out the irregularities about it in his column. [http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/bimmer/Bimmers/2007\_12.pdf](http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/bimmer/Bimmers/2007_12.pdf) (pgs. 8 & 9) ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/7 "2008-09-27T20:26:33Z")
cobalt beat the audi S5? stop it. ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/8 "2008-09-27T20:28:29Z")
> [@Swifty](#): > > cobalt beat the audi S5? stop it. :ponder ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/9 "2008-09-27T20:29:47Z")
> [@luvin2speed](#): > > :ponder not to mention the 135i and the IS-F someone needs to take the pro driver out of the cobalt, and the old ladys out of the sports cars. ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/10 "2008-09-27T20:30:37Z")
haha i know right lol ---
**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/11 "2008-09-28T06:03:04Z")
the zr1 should be somewhere close to the top! ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/12 "2008-09-28T06:26:21Z")
all cobalts are gay this thread sucks :bore :stfu ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/13 "2008-09-28T06:43:47Z")
BS or not, it still couldn’t reel in the Z ;D :lol ---
**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/14 "2008-09-28T07:36:38Z")
I’d be willing to bet that they used a mix of 10-15 drivers whose driving skills ranged very differently. A Viper SRT-10 beats the GT-R??? Vipers drive like a bag of shit, they can barely do a good job going fast in a straight line, let slone going around a track. A CTS-V does better times than a 997 Turbo? Come on… This list is a fucking joke! ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/15 "2008-09-28T07:50:47Z")
Well look at the GT500, one driver posted a 3:05, and another 3:11…so there are obviously differences other than just the car. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/16 "2008-09-28T08:31:31Z")
Anyone going by C&D track times should be shot. They’ve been inconsistent for years now because they’re always changing the drivers. That’s like getting several tunes and jumping from one dyno to the next. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmerz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jimmerz/32/6370_2.png) [@Jimmerz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jimmerz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/17 "2008-09-28T22:16:39Z")
> [@Swifty](#): > > not to mention the 135i and the IS-F > > someone needs to take the pro driver out of the cobalt, and the old ladys out of the sports cars. :lol :+1 ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/18 "2008-09-29T02:46:29Z")
these cars are gay and this thread is the same… lets move on now ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/19 "2008-09-29T04:11:16Z")
> [@JiM P 2001](#): > > I’d be willing to bet that they used a mix of 10-15 drivers whose driving skills ranged very differently. A Viper SRT-10 beats the GT-R??? Vipers drive like a bag of shit, they can barely do a good job going fast in a straight line, let slone going around a track. A CTS-V does better times than a 997 Turbo? Come on… This list is a fucking joke! A new ACR Viper is one of the fastest production cars around a track in the world…in capeable hands a GTR is no match. ---
**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192/20 "2008-09-29T04:14:43Z")
> [@TurboTravis](#): > > A new ACR Viper is one of the fastest production cars around a track in the world…in capeable hands a GTR is no match. i must agree only based on the GTR driver i met, who said it was the easiest car to drive that he has owned. It does alot of the work for you, so GTR’s are probably very consistant. Where as the ACR may take a little more finess, but with some seat time i can see this happening [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-and-driver-08-lightning-lap-test-results-just-released/239192.md?page=2)