# Car Audio Noob Needs Help **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 15, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-audio-noob-needs-help/36994 "2007-10-15T03:52:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 20
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-audio-noob-needs-help/36994/20 "2007-10-17T19:29:56Z")
[quote=“greg23,post:18,topic:36994"”] Vented and Ported are the same thing, they are both bass reflex enclosures. “Vented” is common term used when using a bass reflex enclosure in which the face of the port is rectangular, and usually uses 3 sides of the enclosure as walls for the port. “Ported” is a common term when using a circular port tube. F3 is calculated the same same way in both styles, cause its the same thing. If you think bandpass is cheap and ebay junk, I would suggest brushing up on your box design skills. Properly designed 3rd, 4th, and 6th order boxes can be very impressive in the car audio world. [/quote] Exactly, but I was trying to get him to realize that he is a dumbass with what he said. Any enclosure is junk if it’s not properly designed and constructed; both car and home audio. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-audio-noob-needs-help/36994)._