# Car Crash in Cheektowaga
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 14, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717 "2005-12-14T15:36:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/61 "2005-12-15T09:01:09Z")
RIP, I remember him from that Dyno day.
X…
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### Author:  [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/62 "2005-12-15T09:06:23Z")
hey guys, lets not argue about how fast he was goin and whatnot…it is what it is and we can’t change it.
RIP
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### Author:  [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/63 "2005-12-15T09:15:30Z")
^ I know werd.
Trees are different, cars are different, who cares.
It always sucks when you know of/know the people killed. Very sorry to hear ☹
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/64 "2005-12-15T09:46:10Z")
> [@Mikes98RT](#):
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> hey guys, lets not argue about how fast he was goin and whatnot…it is what it is and we can’t change it.
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> RIP
Well, the only reason I brought it up was because as sad as it is, it’s something poeple should learn from. If no one learns we’re only going to see more threads like this one and no one wants that.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/65 "2005-12-15T09:54:46Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> Well, the only reason I brought it up was because as sad as it is, it’s something poeple should learn from. If no one learns we’re only going to see more threads like this one and no one wants that.
more importantly, why is it that this thread is a somber memorial, yet countless other threads regarding auto accidents are occasions for making fun of the driver/car/by-standers/etc…?
Just because it’s local -or- someone’s friend, no one is allowed to comment? But when there is a trashed Enzo, the thread can go on for pages about the “little blue tarps” and no one minds.
JayS has a perfectly good point, but it’s invalid because it was a local accident. :roll2: Death is death
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### Author:  [@BIGHANDS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BIGHANDS)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/66 "2005-12-15T09:56:53Z")
that sux i also worked with him at campbells he was a cool dude sorry to hear
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/67 "2005-12-15T10:06:33Z")
> [@Mikes98RT](#):
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> hey guys, lets not argue about how fast he was goin and whatnot…it is what it is and we can’t change it.
>
> RIP
wasnt trying to sound like i was being a dick, just saying that 100 sounds liek a bit of a stretch
either way its a horrible lossfor friends, family, and just the car comunity as a whole
:tup: to anyone that has had a hard life, but is still more then happy to do favors for anyone that asks, thats shows good character.
:tdown: to the idea of loosing anyone far b4 it was their time to go, doesnt matter if it was because of their own simple mistake (like glancing at the radio at the wrong moment) or some freak accident (like luggage falling from the cargo compartment of a 747 at 30K feet)
R.I.P.
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### Author:  [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/68 "2005-12-15T10:12:03Z")
> [@dozr](#):
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> Camaro is a full frame car, isnt it?
It looked like it was a 68 Camaro. In that case, it is not a full frame, but is a sub-frame.
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### Author:  [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/69 "2005-12-15T10:33:57Z")
R.I.P. Never knew the guy but he sounds like a strait up dude and will be missed. What a shame.
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### Author:  [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/70 "2005-12-15T10:47:59Z")
> [@camarojoe](#):
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> It looked like it was a 68 Camaro. In that case, it is not a full frame, but is a sub-frame.
arent all camaros unibody sub framed, i know my friends 67 is
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### Author:  [@Vile](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vile)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/71 "2005-12-15T10:48:12Z")
RIP
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### Author:  [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/72 "2005-12-15T10:59:21Z")
☹
Terrible.
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### Author:  [@Diesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Diesel)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/73 "2005-12-15T12:30:30Z")
That sucks. I just heard about it this morning. I worked with him for years when I used to work at Pizza Hut. He was always a good kid and did have things tough sometimes. I also talked to him that very night at Yings. Makes you think about how fragile our own lives are. R.I.P.
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### Author:  [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/74 "2005-12-15T13:04:19Z")
this is bad…RIP…
_sad_
BTW…not really related but…yesterday, coming home from wegmans…i saw this one red car…maybe an old mustang or something (im not sure)…
OK. this dude was driving like mad…at night…WITHOUT headlight turned on… :meh:
whoever he is…i hope he can be more careful next time…
oh, i was driving along this car on maple-sweethome
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### Author:  [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/75 "2005-12-15T13:17:38Z")
:tdown: to it all
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### Author:  [@sevenonesixcavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sevenonesixcavy)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/76 "2005-12-15T14:51:41Z")
WOW shit like this sucks, anyone needs anything lemme know. RIP
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### Author:  [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/77 "2005-12-15T15:41:23Z")
> [@articzap](#):
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> arent all camaros unibody sub framed, i know my friends 67 is
The front and rear frame sections are bolted to the body. Subframe connectors are available for the cars.
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### Author:  [@SHOtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHOtime)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/78 "2005-12-15T19:47:25Z")
swung by the memorial site…really sad…prayers are with the FMF crew and everyone who knew Paul
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### Author:  [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/79 "2005-12-16T00:18:25Z")
Very sad to hear, but does anyone else wonder why he was driving this in the winter?
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### Author:  [@Blown\_Stroked](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blown_Stroked)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2005, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-crash-in-cheektowaga/5717/80 "2005-12-16T05:33:16Z")
Paul just put the camaro back on the road because he was planning on going to FL.
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