# car enthusiasts 1 pelosi 0 **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-enthusiasts-1-pelosi-0/201912 "2009-02-18T10:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-enthusiasts-1-pelosi-0/201912/12 "2009-02-18T14:07:58Z")
> [@OLDS ROCKETMAN"](#): > > for the average person thou if that $2500 is the difference between gettin the car and not…how the hell are they gonna be able to afford insurance and repairs. It’s a $4,500 check if the vehicle you’re trading in is less than 7 years old. That is definitely a solid down payment on something new. You’re someone that LOATHES welfare. This isn’t welfare. It’s an incentive. The idea isn’t to get everyone who has an old beater to trade it straight up for a brand new civic. It’s to get someone who has been running their vehicle and is already thinking of getting something new to get something that is more fuel efficient. Maybe get a 5cyl Colorado instead of a 1500 with a V8… that sort of shit. Plus it gives people a big incentive to BUY, which is what the economy needs right now. > [@This has potential...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-has-potential/39642/11): > > 18mpg… wow. goodbye anything over a 5cyl My Vette, even with the slushbox, gets high 20’s MPG wise. But you wouldn’t know anything about that since you’re pimping a mid 80’s mullet carnival on wheels. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-enthusiasts-1-pelosi-0/201912)._