# CarFox (CarFax)
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [August 24, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827 "2011-08-24T14:28:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/1 "2011-08-24T14:28:09Z")
Is the only way to do this to buy single reports for $35 now? Looking to buy one up front for my car that I’m selling, thought these were way cheaper in the past? Only need one report, so 5 for $50 or whatever is of no help.
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### Author:  [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/2 "2011-08-24T14:29:54Z")
wasn’t there a dealer on here doing them for free?
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/3 "2011-08-24T14:37:13Z")
> [@Bull49](#):
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> wasn’t there a dealer on here doing them for free?
They are no longer doing that.
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/4 "2011-08-24T21:04:38Z")
car fax increased their rates. It is crazy expensive to have a business account with them.
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### Author:  [@Z31NA2T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z31NA2T)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/5 "2011-08-24T21:20:26Z")
> [@somedude](#):
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> car fax increased their rates. It is crazy expensive to have a business account with them.
But yet they crap talk every dealer who doesn’t give people free car-fax reports on the cars they’re selling and claim “available at reputable dealers”…its all BS anyways, I’ve found sooooo many fuckups on it. Its only as accurate as the moron who filed the information with them was. I had a car that had confirmed 30,000 original miles, was spotless no way it was over that…all other paperwork said it was 30,000 original miles, but someone at carfax didn’t believe a '88 had 30,000 miles so they assumed it was a mistake and entered 130,000.
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/6 "2011-08-24T21:54:13Z")
carfax is largely BS. I have to give them credit though. They build a industry based on fear and advertise their product well enough that people on both sides (dealer and consumer) get suckered into purchasing it.
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/7 "2011-08-24T22:19:18Z")
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### Author:  [@See4Ways](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/See4Ways)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/8 "2011-08-25T05:55:25Z")
Dealers should offer them, and if it is a deal breaker, a private party should offer it.
On my dealers website the cars on our website have attachments for the autocheck and the original window sticker… i think that’s pretty decent
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### Author:  [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/9 "2011-08-25T06:02:13Z")
Is carfox like a spinoff of starfox? I used to love that game!!!
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2011, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/10 "2011-08-25T08:51:40Z")
I believe its a huge money maker. Esp. now that they seem to have suckered every dealer in to accounts that give the reports away free to consumers. Great job by them. Its not perfect, but in some instances, better than nothing.
I don’t feel an obligation to provide it, just thought it’d be nice to already have when I list the car, although I didn’t know if there was a way to do it for less than $35. Think they’ll just accept my 3 year old one from when I bought it? :-p
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### Author:  [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/11 "2011-08-25T10:59:06Z")
if your selling a car for thousands of dollars… whats 35 to prove that its clean etc
like everyone else said carfax can only show was was reported, so if someone has a car for 10 years and puts a different cluster in every year “to keep mileage down” as long as he doesnt report it for inspection/registration he will never get caught, same with if you can fix your own body work, that wouldnt show up on a carfax
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/12 "2011-08-25T12:12:01Z")
I would bet that the vast majority of body work does not get reported to car fax.
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### Author:  [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/13 "2011-08-25T12:28:39Z")
anything reported to insurance will be reported to carfax, if its cash i doubt it would make it to carfax
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2011, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/14 "2011-08-26T06:23:30Z")
> [@Saxon](#):
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> anything reported to insurance will be reported to carfax, if its cash i doubt it would make it to carfax
That is not true
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### Author:  [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/15 "2011-08-26T11:27:42Z")
PM me the vin dude
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> [@somedude](#):
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> car fax increased their rates. It is crazy expensive to have a business account with them.
THOUSANDS of dollars a month.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/16 "2011-08-28T04:55:44Z")
> [@somedude](#):
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> I would bet that the vast majority of body work does not get reported to car fax.
Carfax has a RAP (repair advantage program) rolling out that has them buying repair data from collision shops across north america for inclusion in their reports. the problem is overcoming insurance companies concern with the sharing of the data. Some insurers have bought it, it’s just a matter of time really.
Big value in this long term. It will motivate people to have their cars repaired at reputable places because most insurance DRP shops will be sharing this info. If the report on your car shows an accident report but no repair you’ll have more questions to answer to potential buyers.
> [@Saxon](#):
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> anything reported to insurance will be reported to carfax, if its cash i doubt it would make it to carfax
very few insurers provide the data directly. Carfax sources most info from police, dealerships, DMV’s or the bodies that hold all of the data that the DMV has. They can get some insurance data indirectly because insurance companies need to report or share this data with industry regulators or associations.
Insurers are starting though.
incidentally, does anyone here know anyone who works for carfax?
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### Author:  [@cory\_matthews](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cory_matthews)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carfox-carfax/215827/17 "2011-08-29T15:17:55Z")
2 years ago I bought a super-clean '95 Eclipse GSX that still had a Georgia title, which looked clean. Carfax was clean as well. I went to title it and got a letter back saying that it had been totalled in 2001.