# Carry on Campus: Where do you stand?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 10, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022 "2008-03-10T09:09:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/61 "2008-03-10T14:16:17Z")

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> [@FS: Audi 2.7T/Honda/Mustang/Truck Parts, Wheels,Tires, Everything](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-audi-2-7t-honda-mustang-truck-parts-wheels-tires-everything/34768/22):
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> I can agree 100%, Im a hot headed person but when I do carry, it really does calm me down, I don’t lose it or pull it out or flash it, but I know its there if I really need it.

I think anyone who legally carries can say something similar, if not the exact same thing, I know that’s how I am.

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**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/62 "2008-03-10T14:19:09Z")

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> [@Limewire?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/limewire/35353/10):
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> I think anyone who legally carries can say something similar, if not the exact same thing, I know that’s how I am.

i would disagree that computer-literate car enthusiasts are a representative sample of the entire gun owning populace.

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/63 "2008-03-10T14:25:40Z")

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i carried a baseball in my book bag in high school… i knew i had a chance to fire it off someones face i wouldn’t miss. lol if i was found with any other type of weapon that would have meant expulsion.

i’ll take my chances that a regular gun toting student isnt gonna flip and light up the class room. i dont think carrying to class would be the problem… i think a bunch of gun carrying college kids goin to parties on campus would be the bigger issue. if they arent gonna let college kids carry they need to come up with some type of system to keep them safe… (gaurds in every lecture hall, tons of metal detectors, etc. etc…) theres a lot factors that weight into this question. the more i think about it. i’m still for it but with more hesitation than i thought at first. the whole think about drunk college kids with guns is weighing big in my mind. we’ve all seen dumb ass brawls for no reason at a party… if people are now strapped, think of what could go down.

Most of us in the thread are speakin with maturity, some college kids dont have that. With the stuff that goes on at smaller schools that are like an extention of high school who knows what people would do… some kid gets loaded at a party, find his scum bag girl friend suckin some BBC, smokes her, smokes the basketball player…etc etc…

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/64 "2008-03-10T14:44:18Z")

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[quote=“showtime,post:6,topic:35351"”]

i was talking after the fact…but still your sarcasm is so invigorating

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invigorating solely below the waist, i hope… :naughty:

[quote=“77rednecktruck,post:27,topic:35295"”]

you may not have an “after the fact” if you don’t carry a gun.

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my point exactly. :love:

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/65 "2008-03-10T14:45:02Z")

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> fucking blow me, with your argument that i’m some sheltered fucking suburban douche. i’ve delivered pizzas in manchester, north side, and northview heights. i’ve never needed a gun, even though i’ve carried over a thousand dollars on a semi-regular basis.
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> the one time i was mugged, it was set up so i never would have had time to grab a weapon if i had one.
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> i might have lived in shaler and north park, but i’ve also lived in a minivan and some really shitty apartments.

Whatever or wherever you’ve lived, speak for yourself. I _have_ had to use a gun to protect myself. If said encounter had happened while I was heading to main campus in Oakland instead of to remote campus 13, I wouldn’t have been carrying and may not be posting here right now. At the very least I probably would’ve got a buck fifty and my charming good looks would’ve been ruined forever. 😉

So again, my initial argument stands- thank YOU for deciding what type of protection _I_ need.

> the whole think about drunk college kids with guns is weighing big in my mind.

The same laws that apply to people who carry that don’t live on college campuses should apply here. If you’re intoxicated past the legal driving limit, you shouldn’t be allowed to carry, and if caught, you should face stiff legal punishment.

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**Author:** ![hayabusa03rx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@hayabusa03rx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hayabusa03rx)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/66 "2008-03-10T14:45:09Z")

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> [@Car weight limits . . .](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-weight-limits/35349/11):
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> i would disagree that computer-literate car enthusiasts are a representative sample of the entire gun owning populace.

I was thinking that the whole time.

After reading this thread the song Chris Rock did “no sex in the champagne room” If you put metal detectors up everywhere then people waiting for you to leave class know you don’t have anything on you.

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**Author:** ![SmokinDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@SmokinDiesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SmokinDiesel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/67 "2008-03-10T14:47:00Z")

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Im for it …

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/68 "2008-03-10T14:48:01Z")

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> [@ShalerPunk"](#):
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> are you all fucking retarded?
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> fuck no; there is no reason to bring a weapon to a college campus. you all talk about protection, but what about the guy who loses his temper, and due to now being allowed to carry on campus, he happens to have his gun on him.
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> there are always going to be people who lose it.

Well what happens when that same situation occurs off campus? As far as I can tell, people are no more likely to lose their temper on campus property than anywhere else. The only thing these “gun free” zones does is designate an area for people to commit crimes against people where they perpetrator is less likely to get shot.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/69 "2008-03-10T14:51:28Z")

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> [@My Girlfriend owns me...not really, but...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-girlfriend-owns-me-not-really-but/35312/24):
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> fucking blow me, with your argument that i’m some sheltered fucking suburban douche. i’ve delivered pizzas in manchester, north side, and northview heights. i’ve never needed a gun, even though i’ve carried over a thousand dollars on a semi-regular basis.
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> the one time i was mugged, it was set up so i never would have had time to grab a weapon if i had one.
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> i might have lived in shaler and north park, but i’ve also lived in a minivan and some really shitty apartments.

Oh shut the fuck up you sheltered fucking suburban douche.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/70 "2008-03-10T14:53:16Z")

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the argument that people will be blasting each other over parking spots and looking funny at each other does not hold true off of campus property, so I fail to see how it would be applicable ON campus property.

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/71 "2008-03-10T18:59:13Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/5934):
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> but… im not into killin…its to easy & it gives the other person an easy way out.  
> i’m into physical & mental punishment…preferable over the long term.  
> for instance if someone killed a family member of mine…i don’t want the death penalty, i would rather have him locked up & someone beats his ass to the brink of death on a daily basis.

I agree, keep their asses in jail and cost me even more tax dollars. No real point in killing the low life bastard.

> [@My Girlfriend owns me...not really, but...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-girlfriend-owns-me-not-really-but/35312/24):
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> fucking blow me, with your argument that i’m some sheltered fucking suburban douche. i’ve delivered pizzas in manchester, north side, and northview heights. i’ve never needed a gun, even though i’ve carried over a thousand dollars on a semi-regular basis.
> 
> the one time i was mugged, it was set up so i never would have had time to grab a weapon if i had one.
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> i might have lived in shaler and north park, but i’ve also lived in a minivan and some really shitty apartments.

All I can say is, Dumb Ass Douche Bag. And that might just be too nice for you.

But honestly, I carry everywhere. If I can’t carry I dont go there, period. I’m not shooting anyone over a measly $1000.00, not even $5000.00 You fuck with with me or my family, we are gonna fight, you pull a knife or gun your gonna die. Got it?

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**Author:** ![PurpleMongoose](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purplemongoose/32/3349_2.png) [@PurpleMongoose](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PurpleMongoose)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/72 "2008-03-10T19:10:25Z")

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> [@mmmmmmm....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mmmmmmm/35313/8):
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> Well what happens when that same situation occurs off campus? As far as I can tell, people are no more likely to lose their temper on campus property than anywhere else. The only thing these “gun free” zones does is designate an area for people to commit crimes against people where they perpetrator is less likely to get shot.

Yup. What he said.

Criminals are cowards. They’re gonna prey where they’re safest. If they think Granny’s got a .38, they’ll move on…

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**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/73 "2008-03-11T06:13:11Z")

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the problem wiht this thread is that its written by and responded to by a bunch of gun carriers. If you have a problem being somehwere that your not allowed to carry then i suggest you dont go there. pretty simple really. if your afraid to attend college at PITT for christ sake of all places, then maybe harvard is a better choice for you…

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/74 "2008-03-11T06:23:22Z")

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> the problem wiht this thread is that its written by and responded to by a bunch of gun carriers. If you have a problem being somehwere that your not allowed to carry then i suggest you dont go there. pretty simple really.

Not really. We have a Constitutionally stated right that affords us the ability to use firearms to protect ourselves; we also have a natural right of self defense.

> if your afraid to attend college at PITT for christ sake of all places, then maybe harvard is a better choice for you…

What a silly statement- do you think some folks said the same thing about Virginia Tech before the shooting there? Furthermore, not everyone who attends Pitt gets to commute from their parents house in the suburbs; while I was attending Pitt I was very worried about my personal safety traveling to and from campus, unarmed, through the neighborhood I lived in.

Not that Oakland at night is particularly nice anyway. Been past the Original after 9PM lately? Right in the center of campus…

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/75 "2008-03-11T06:56:30Z")

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Ya as a matter of fact ive been all around pitts campus at all hours of the day and night… i went to pitt… not once did i think to myself gee i better carry… and i went to night school there too so the majority of my time spent in oakland was at night. oakland isnt a rough area of town. but i realize this thread isnt just about oakland its about all schools and qutie frankly i cant speak for all colleges and their surrounding areas in this country and really neither can any one of us on here. my point is i dont think arming a bunch of 21 year olds is the answer. it might seem like an easy way out but im sure there are better ways to protect ourselves…

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/76 "2008-03-11T07:01:42Z")

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/77 "2008-03-11T07:05:57Z")

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> [@wtf: apt furnitures](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf-apt-furnitures/35365/3):
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> i dont think arming a bunch of 21 year olds is the answer. it might seem like an easy way out but im sure there are better ways to protect ourselves…

Please elaborate then? If you have a better idea?

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/78 "2008-03-11T07:08:50Z")

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> Ya as a matter of fact ive been all around pitts campus at all hours of the day and night… i went to pitt… not once did i think to myself gee i better carry… and i went to night school there too so the majority of my time spent in oakland was at night. oakland isnt a rough area of town. but i realize this thread isnt just about oakland its about all schools and qutie frankly i cant speak for all colleges and their surrounding areas in this country and really neither can any one of us on here.

I can speak for myself- I HAVE needed a firearm for my own personal protection. It angers me to think that someone like you would have taken that protection away from me when I very much needed it.

I was 22 at the time, FYI.

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**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/79 "2008-03-11T07:09:57Z")

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> [@What kind of car does your girlfriend drive](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-kind-of-car-does-your-girlfriend-drive/35367/13):
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> Please elaborate then? If you have a better idea?

sorry in the 10 minutes worth of reading this thread i havent come up with a better idea quite yet, but that still doesnt change my opinion in thinking that allowing a bunch of guns is the BEST solution.

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**Author:** ![2toneishot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2toneishot/32/6010_2.png) [@2toneishot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2toneishot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/carry-on-campus-where-do-you-stand/196022/80 "2008-03-11T07:10:38Z")

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> [@NHL 08 League Xbox 360](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nhl-08-league-xbox-360/35295/47):
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> I can speak for myself- I HAVE needed a firearm for my own personal protection. It angers me to think that someone like you would have taken that protection away from me when I very much needed it.
> 
> I was 22 at the time, FYI.

so tell me … was that need for your firearm in the middle of the classroom?

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